I may have to buy and and try it. See if I like what it does. But I have a few other things I want to purchase first, at least one other thing. So maybe sometime this summer.

Aaron, first let me say that you most likey have a quality product, but I am still not sure that it will benefit us SS owners....read on....

I am sure that you have noticed quite a difference, and from your pic it seems like the sway bar goes under the torsional bar, is that true, or are my eyes not seeing correctly???

just went outside to see exactly what our rear sway bar looks like, and it is a straight bar that is under the torsional bar, now the question(s) are;
1-if the TTR bar does indeed attach in a way that it goes under the torsional bar, there is no room for it, correct? unless the bar comes across the front of the torsional bar,, instead of underneath it... 2-if there is only a slight difference in diameter, then what benefit would our SS suspensions receive from adding this bar, if any??? On the HHR's that don't come with the rear sway bar, and again repeating myself, it seems that none of them do, except the SS, then there will be a significant gain as those members have stated.
All in all, I don't want to purchase a bar that will throw off the balance of the SS suspension. If it works and improves handling, then I'm all for it.
I would still like to hear from SS owners who have installed this unit and their feedback, so far no responses.......

Very true. It's been said many times that SS owners have bought them, but where are they? We have not heard from an SS owner about this bar.

No don't the bar makes a big difference on most cars, but the SS suspension is specifically tuned.

Ride quality?
 

I live in a city with TERRIBLE roads...what does this bar do to the ride quality? I have a base 2008 HHR...

it may help you very slightly with the ride quality, (on the good side) because you are connecting both sides of the vehicle suspension (in this application, the rear) together, but the sway bar's main purpose is to keep you balanced when going through the curves or quick maneuvers from side-to-side (lane changes, etc.) your vehicle will not lean as much as it does now, giving you more control than what you previously had.....just be safe with your new handling abilities

^^^ Exactly

Bumping, hoping to keep this active enough to hear from someone with an SS who bought it...

That's all I am waiting for. I would like the opinion of several SS owners. Maybe I will buy one try it and if I don't like it sell it to an LS or LT owner :thumb:

Not an SS here, but over the holiday we crused through carbon canyon here in So Cal. When we first mounted the bar on Mitzkity (2LT) the ride was noticibly improved (not talking cornering) which I don't quite understand, but it was a great side-effect. Running the corners in carbon canyon felt like driving Cheri's old Plymouth Laser (Early Eclipse) rather than the HHR we bought. We were doing 20mph corners at 45 with almost zero body roll. Couldn't believe the improvement.

what all will i need to install this? it was going to be father down the list of mods to do, but i think i might be moving it up.

I didn't know if it had to be torqued to any special settings or anything, I don't have a torque wrench here, so if it does i'll have to do it at my parents at the end of the month.

It comes with all the hardware. From my point of view, it you use a 1/2 in. drive ratchet to cinch the bolts down and use some blue locktite, they will not come loose. After I got them all tight, I gave em a good hard last pull. You will need an extra pair of hands to hold up the opposite end of the bar as you start the bolts. 20 minutes tops and you will be carving corners.

I have installed both the Progressive and TTR. Both are nice products but the TTR is much larger in diameter. Well designed too.

I used a bungee cord to hold up the other side while I started the bolts since I was working alone. worked great.

an empty cat-box lid held up my other side, took me all of 10 mins to self-install

This rear sway bar (in agreement with Mitzkity, catzcradle and any other cat lovers...) is the cat's azzzz. Very worthwhile handling improvement!! :thumb:

For installing (extremely easy, for those concerned), a couple of good suggestions have been made to support the bar while getting the bolts started. Let me add that a couple of loosely connected wire ties also work great while getting the bolts started, too.

GO FOR IT!! :thumb:

Thanks for the great comments, we have red and black in stock, other colors also avaliable.

To the vendor, I only have one regret. I now really want to put sways on my Dodge Magnum. Unfortunatly, it's not in the same league as the HHR install :)

well it's on my list of mods as soon as i scrounge up the cash for it since it's a bit more then other things i want to do, along with buying it a week ago.

Then i gotta decide on the color. I know you can't see it much but, Black to blend in and go incognito, red for a little pop, black chrome to bling it, or yellow for a little snazz. I know a lot of people paint their brakes red for that pop of color and i thought about doing it, although i think yellow could be a nice pop too.

Question, is it ever going to rust or the coating crack off or anything like that? I just ask because i've had a few hitches on different vehicles (i know not the same....) but they always end up rusting and looking nasty, don't want that effect.

Also, do these sit lower then anything else under the car? will i have to worry about driving over certain things or curbs or anything like that once it's on?

It sits lower at the swingarm by the thickness of the bar. The rest of it is tucked up into the cross piece. There are other things that would be damaged long before the bar if you went off roading with it. They powdercoat the bars, and that stuff is flexible and very durable. I wouldn't worry about rust.

The Cobalt SS guys seem to like them.

if that is how the bars fits, as I thought, then it will not fit the SS, because of the rear sway bar already in place, and actually there is no need for it with our suspensions. I just don't understand why Aaron would not explain that from the get-go:confused: :confused: :confused: and why he said SS owners have purchased the bar :roll:

It fit under the existing bar that runs through the cross piece on the LT/LS, but is still in that cross piece. No interference.

They have purchase them and installed them, they fit and will be an improvemnt. The cobalt SS/TC guys also installed them, including my self :)

Are you saying that this bar install's with the factory rear bar on the SS for a total of two rear sway bars?

Any confirmation from an SS owner that's installed this rear bar? I would also like to hear comments concerning the benefits on an SS.

Yes ALL cobalts and HHR have a stock "rear torsion" bar, this is an additional full sway bar to help.

SS owners do also have this, they just need to post their comments also. We have a SS/TC cobalt with one on it :)

It would seem to me that if the rear is "made" less to roll that you are gonna be introducing a "push" in the front end or maybe a lack of rotation in the frame......all other things being left as is. I'm guessing that some added negative camber to the front end and/or slightly higher spring rates in the front end would/could solve this. Just my unprofessional $0.02 worth.

Yea.....I know.....What the fudge is he talkin' about! Thought I'd add that and save a few of ya'll the trouble.

A while back on the Power Tour I was pushing my HHR in some twisties and didn't get any push, although it felt like if it did it might be due to tires not the bar. Last week I was playing with it and was exceeding the tire's limits a bit and the front did not push as might be expected. I came around one curve way past the posted speed for that curve and just got both ends to drift slightly, but evenly. It felt solid. I have a fairly stiff rear on my 54 Chevy and can make that one come around with very little power, so in comparison I have the HHR set up where I feel comfortable with my wife driving it daily knowing she's not going to get into trouble with it, even in an emergency maneuver.

Ok, this is my last post on this thread, I don't want to sound like a D***, but I know that all of the above have the "rear torsion bar", as this is a design & part of the suspension when being built, someone correct me if I am wrong, but the SS has the rear sway bar stock from the factory that is attached under (inside )of the rear torsion bar, attaching from 1 side-to-the-other-side. IMO, if you add this sway bar to the existing SS suspension, I feel that it will create an unsafe balance to what we alreay have. Unless you remove the stock sway bar and replace it with this unit.
Now, as I stated before, my SSR did not come from the factory with a rear sway bar, but had a p....... bar (can't remember the proper name ) that was mounted on a slant from one side to the other. I did add ADDCO sway bars, both front and rear which really increased the handling quite a bit.
The G5 I trade in on the SS was a base model w/15" wheels and without a sway bar it handled better than some of the C3 Vettes I have owned. And of course that vehicle has a lower center of gravity than the HHR SS.
The point I am making is that I feel we are not get the correct answer that we are looking for, I want to hear from an SS owner who has purchased this bar, see it installed, and get their feedback on the increased handling abilities, it that really to much to ask???? We seem like we cannnot get a straight answer here, and if someone proves I am wrong in my asssumptions, then I stand to be corrected. thanks for reading:D

We are still waiting for one of the HHR SS owners that have the sway bar to post.

You must remember the Cobalt SS/TC (Turbocharged) is the same suspension setup as the HHR has. The HHR SS DOES NOT have a full "sway bar" from the factory, like the one we manufacture. Look under your HHR SS you will not see one....

We will wait for other HHR SS owners that have actually purchased one to express their thoughts.

ok so I am posting again, and believe me, I will be a buyer if it indeed works for our favor, but a sway bar is a sway bar. And I do understand that it is not the configuration that your bar is, and I do like the way your bar is made, and how it attaches to the suspension, but if we are adding another sway bar to one that already is in place, how much of a difference if any, will we realize? All of the info for the SS states both front & rear sway bars (can't remember the sizes) but I think that the thickness is very close, if not the same diameter as the one you sell. I am not trying to "break them" for you, I am sure the other SS owners here will agree, that we want to make sure it works with our suspension in a safe and beneficial way, simply stated.

I agree SSROADSTER, It's still not clear to me if there is an advantage to using this rear sway bar on an SS. I would like to hear from someone that's pushed an SS with this sway bar.

I'm ready to buy if it's worthwhile.

thanks, :smile: I appreciate your input, at least I'm not alone with these thoughts....:D

Since people love facts and figures was any skid pad tests done on the SS?
Just throwing the question out there.

According to Chevrolet, the stock SS pulls .86g's on the skid pad. According to Car and Driver, they got a .88 out of it. Here's the article:http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

It would be very interesting to see what an SS with this rear sway bar would do.

:thumb:

Thanks Z06.

More black and red in stock :)

Anyone else need one, they are in stock.

I see a few pics of these... But not from the back. Can these be seen from the rear, such as the bars on a Civic or Integra??

You can, more than some think. Many get the red or black, and then state after the fact, they wish they would have got a custom color, as it is more noticable then they thoght.

Any pics of the Blue metallic?