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Old May 25, 2015 | 12:36 PM
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To expand on what FMG said, that is also the GVWR, or Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. Basically, it is what the manufacturer says the absolute maximum operating weight of the vehicle and it's occupants is. We know the HHR has a payload capacity of ~1000lbs, therefore, they weigh ~3200lbs, which seems resonable, considering the Cobalts weigh about 3000lbs. And I would love to see the work that wewnt into a 2.4 to get it up to almost 160mph...
Old May 25, 2015 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenchy42
And I would love to see the work that wewnt into a 2.4 to get it up to almost 160mph...
Remember, he said it was stock except for a K&N oil filter.....
Old May 25, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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Yep. "Stock" HHR gearing + "Stock" rpm redline = Physically impossible to go that speed.

Now if the owner can get his "stock" HHR to turn about 10k rpms, I may have to eat my comment.
Old May 25, 2015 | 03:10 PM
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I'm calling BS like everyone else.....

If he is ASSUMING the HHR weights 1900 pounds and it is kg's....maybe he's reading the dash as kph. 157 KPH = approximately 100 MPH......which is much closer to reality (which he is missing).

Additionally, if he is truly getting a top end of the reported 157 MPH AND has just the "squeeze" of the K&N oil filter, then I wish he would contact me. I just showed a GM engineer his post and he is rolling on the ground laughing.

Lastly....I'm calling quack, quack........
Old May 25, 2015 | 03:29 PM
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Sure, it will go that fast.( with a little photoshop help. )

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Old May 25, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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This one isn't photo shopped (2005 Pontiac GTO):
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Old May 27, 2015 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Truevil
Wow you guys need to look back before the change on the regulator. The top end was much higher. Mine is before the change in specs. I was clocked on a private mile strip of an officer. 157 was topped out as promised by GM.
And you need to look for the HHR fantasy site.......you need to stop this. Many of us were 'day one' owners and fully know what these vehicles are and aren't capable of and well as how they are equipped and what their capacities are. We have members with competition built HHRs that would have difficulty reaching 157 mph. Stop trying to impress us with your middle school fantasies....it aint working. No matter how many times you say it, nobody believes you. Post a picture of your weight tag and something showing you magical HHR at 157 MPH on your policeman friend's strip.

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Old May 27, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Truevil
Sorry to say my tag on mine for curb weight of my 2009 is 1910lb. I have already maxed mine out at a cops house using radar testing at a top speed of 157mph. Yes stock other then a K&N oil filter. Sorry to hear all your are not preforming up to what it can. Mine is also pre-regulator speed drop. Just as told by GM on the intro about the hhr. Also my neighbor down the road has a the 2LT 2011 and the curb weight listed on the factory sticker is 2057lbs.


Specs on a 2006 2LT HHR:

As-tested price $22,045 (2LT)
Vehicle layout Front engine, FWD, 5-passenger, 4-door wagon
Engine 2.4L/172-hp/162 lb-ft DOHC 16-valve I-4
Transmission 5-speed manual
Curb weight, f/r dist 3214 lb (57/43%)
Wheelbase 103.5 in
Length x width x height 176.2 x 69.2 x 65.2 in
0-60 mph 7.9 sec
Quarter mile 16.2 sec @ 87.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 134 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.77 g avg
600-foot slalom 60.8 mph avg
MT figure eight 28.7 sec @ 0.57 g avg
EPA city/hwy fuel economy 22/30 mpg

Those number were for the 5 speed, so lets compare the auto:

Type: F23 5-speed manual Hydra-Matic 4T45-E 4-speed
Gear ratios: (:1):
First: 3.58 2.95
Second: 2.02 1.62
Third: 1.35 1.00
Fourth: 0.98 0.68
Fifth: 0.69 –
Reverse: 3.31 2.14
Final drive ratio: 4.17:1 3.91:1

And with a 6750 redline on the 2.4....






Originally Posted by Truevil
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Look at your stock tire rating for speed rating. My stock was rated W for top speed of 170+.
The Firestone Firehawks were as "H" or "V" rated tire, not sure which the 2LT recieved, but definately not "W" rated..

I agree, you seem to be reading the metric side of everything and getting it confused, cause your number do not compute in reality.
Old May 27, 2015 | 10:25 AM
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In 2008, GM said that the new HHR SS had a top speed of 155 mph.

I think our (im)poster has mixed up some of his specs in his fantasy world.
Old May 27, 2015 | 02:10 PM
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As Tina said to Tara in the DriveTime commercial....

STOP IT!!



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