*NEW* ZZP Intake Tube for the HHR SS
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Joined: 01-02-2012
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From: Livermore, CA
I like the idea of a SRI but I think it needs to be routed just a hair differently and it needs some sort of heat shield.
Going to be fabbing up my own soon so we'll see what we can come up with then lol
Going to be fabbing up my own soon so we'll see what we can come up with then lol
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Joined: 09-20-2009
Posts: 1,058
From: Hayward, Ca.
Joe: You can shake your head all you want. When I state things, they come from fifty years, of working on, some driving, and crewing many types of race cars. I did'nt just fall off the banana boat yesterday, and I a lot of my information comes from experience, and from some very well know racers,ect.
I was'nt trying to get into a "Mine's bigger than yours" deal, only to state that a lot of the racing deal is a "Monkey see-Monkey do" deal. People sometimes buy a part, just because evryones else does, and the manufactures will gladly tell you it's the "Hot deal" and sell you the part.
If you picked up 12 honest H.P., then fine, you did.
The air intake deal is inmaterial, since I know mine works, and I'm perfectly happy with that.
The backpressure and coilover quote, comes from both a five-and seven time SCCA autocross champs, among others.
Don't take it so personal, just because you have the parts on your car. If it works for you then fine. You do your deal and I'll do mine, and I'll still lay my opinions out there. If I offend you ,then just "get over it". "Moon"
P.S. I myself am quilty of shaking my head at times at some of the suff I hear on here.
I was'nt trying to get into a "Mine's bigger than yours" deal, only to state that a lot of the racing deal is a "Monkey see-Monkey do" deal. People sometimes buy a part, just because evryones else does, and the manufactures will gladly tell you it's the "Hot deal" and sell you the part.
If you picked up 12 honest H.P., then fine, you did.
The air intake deal is inmaterial, since I know mine works, and I'm perfectly happy with that.
The backpressure and coilover quote, comes from both a five-and seven time SCCA autocross champs, among others.
Don't take it so personal, just because you have the parts on your car. If it works for you then fine. You do your deal and I'll do mine, and I'll still lay my opinions out there. If I offend you ,then just "get over it". "Moon"
P.S. I myself am quilty of shaking my head at times at some of the suff I hear on here.
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Joined: 09-09-2011
Posts: 372
From: South Haven, MI
Joe: You can shake your head all you want. When I state things, they come from fifty years, of working on, some driving, and crewing many types of race cars. I did'nt just fall off the banana boat yesterday, and I a lot of my information comes from experience, and from some very well know racers,ect.
I was'nt trying to get into a "Mine's bigger than yours" deal, only to state that a lot of the racing deal is a "Monkey see-Monkey do" deal. People sometimes buy a part, just because evryones else does, and the manufactures will gladly tell you it's the "Hot deal" and sell you the part.
If you picked up 12 honest H.P., then fine, you did.
The air intake deal is inmaterial, since I know mine works, and I'm perfectly happy with that.
The backpressure and coilover quote, comes from both a five-and seven time SCCA autocross champs, among others.
Don't take it so personal, just because you have the parts on your car. If it works for you then fine. You do your deal and I'll do mine, and I'll still lay my opinions out there. If I offend you ,then just "get over it". "Moon"
P.S. I myself am quilty of shaking my head at times at some of the suff I hear on here.
I was'nt trying to get into a "Mine's bigger than yours" deal, only to state that a lot of the racing deal is a "Monkey see-Monkey do" deal. People sometimes buy a part, just because evryones else does, and the manufactures will gladly tell you it's the "Hot deal" and sell you the part.
If you picked up 12 honest H.P., then fine, you did.
The air intake deal is inmaterial, since I know mine works, and I'm perfectly happy with that.
The backpressure and coilover quote, comes from both a five-and seven time SCCA autocross champs, among others.
Don't take it so personal, just because you have the parts on your car. If it works for you then fine. You do your deal and I'll do mine, and I'll still lay my opinions out there. If I offend you ,then just "get over it". "Moon"
P.S. I myself am quilty of shaking my head at times at some of the suff I hear on here.
As for the coilover deal, just because the vehicle is driven daily doesn't exempt it from being competitively driven as well. Therefore the owner of vehicle should dictate what is a "waste" or not.
I know you're running the Dejon as well, but the gains aren't found in the temps, more-so in the crushed factory portion of the intake this ZZP part would eliminate.
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Joined: 08-31-2010
Posts: 28
From: Michigan
Have a good evening.
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Joined: 07-03-2008
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From: LaMarque,Tx
EDIT: Let me note the photo posted is meant to show the "upgraded intake tube", not the intake as whole, as the pipe would be the Dejon piece. Do I see more gains from this upgraded tube and stock box? Possibly, but I disliked covering my engine with such. I am sure ZZP will be produced the tube to work with the OEM box.
This just a sample of the personal opinions I've shaken my head at watching you post on this forum
. Mere opinions though, that's all they are.
There is nothing "misleading" from ZZP here. They produce parts for this market alone and develop them on company vehicles. These vehicles perform at the track and hold records. I don't think Ryan's car has this same intake tube for aesthetic value, it has only ran a 9.82@ 141. Matt's LNF? 10.99@ 133. Stock turbo LNF? 11.62@119.
This was simple:
-there is my HHR
-there is ZZP's dyno
After putting out lower number's than the Cobalt crowd my setup was looked over by Ryan, one thing noted was the intake tube directly off of the turbo. They do produce the part for the Cobalt for a reason. That said my factory tube came off, and a ZZP intake tube came out, and was modified to fit.
12WHP.
One thing to note with the people looking to make power on this site and increase availability of parts that do such:
Tim @ ZZP did contact me a week after my dyno for fitment of a production tube onto my HHR. However it is still in storage away from the winter elements. I know they have fitted the tube on an automatic HHR SS that is local, and only wanted mine to verify manual in which I'm 99.9% sure would be just fine. "Joe"
This just a sample of the personal opinions I've shaken my head at watching you post on this forum
. Mere opinions though, that's all they are.There is nothing "misleading" from ZZP here. They produce parts for this market alone and develop them on company vehicles. These vehicles perform at the track and hold records. I don't think Ryan's car has this same intake tube for aesthetic value, it has only ran a 9.82@ 141. Matt's LNF? 10.99@ 133. Stock turbo LNF? 11.62@119.
This was simple:
-there is my HHR
-there is ZZP's dyno
After putting out lower number's than the Cobalt crowd my setup was looked over by Ryan, one thing noted was the intake tube directly off of the turbo. They do produce the part for the Cobalt for a reason. That said my factory tube came off, and a ZZP intake tube came out, and was modified to fit.
12WHP.
One thing to note with the people looking to make power on this site and increase availability of parts that do such:
Tim @ ZZP did contact me a week after my dyno for fitment of a production tube onto my HHR. However it is still in storage away from the winter elements. I know they have fitted the tube on an automatic HHR SS that is local, and only wanted mine to verify manual in which I'm 99.9% sure would be just fine. "Joe"
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Joined: 08-31-2010
Posts: 28
From: Michigan
Let me assist.
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/te...Scavenging.pdf
This will help you with back pressure. Also realize that when I'm talking about gas velocity, we're talking about scavenging to evacuate the cylinders fully, and keep things flowing quickly, and evenly.