gimme 40 bucks and ill go dyno my bone stock with hp tuners, down to the air filter, 09 hhr ss with pperformance package to compare. I also know that I paid less for my hptuners than you did your gmpp kit, and I've tuned 2 cars. I can also say that if I had a full bolt on car, I would be putting down more hp and for sure more torque. was this on a dynojet or mustang dyno, that makes a huge difference in power. any way you can get any 60-100 times? that's a way I could give a ton of logs for. if only hp tuners would have a dyno estimator(pretty simple math to convert and its all a dyno does anyways).

 

Lol, so you come in here, bash Trifecta and basically talk smack in not so many words and you haven't even dyno'd your frigging HHR SS? Want to know how my 3rd gear is, I can spin all the way through 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear from start till I shift to 4th. Oh and this is on 245/40/18 tires.

 

Again you got the money to buy HPT but not to Dyno your friggin car, when you get a dyno graph and post it we will talk again. Oh and make sure you got SAE Smoothing 5 on and not no STD crap.

Oh really you know for a fact you paid less for your HPT, I only paid $375 new for my GMPP kit, as a matter of fact I posted about here when I got it last year so people could try and get in on the deal. Now stop putting your foot in your mouth and go dyno your car. You haven;t brought one useful fact to this conversation, all I see is you spewing off at the mouth without any dyno graphs to back it up.

 

I did not bash trifecta, they use a too rich 12.0 afr, also they do not tune the maf to match your afr, which makes it where you can't run near as much timing. how much boost were you pushing on the dyno? no I have not dynod my hhr, nor have I done any mods except a tune. I can spin the tires as much as I want from a start if I tune forr it, but spinning doesn't go anywhere. I limit boost in first, and in 2nd til 4k

 

This is how I see it, you can talk all you want to, until you actually post a graph and real numbers no one is taking you seriously. End conversation.

 

you proved your point, I paid 225 for my hp tuners with 4 credits, and already is licensed for 2 bar map on ls engines. so I tuned 2 cars, and can tune turbod ls1s for less than just your gmpp kit(no such thing as gms since its not a stage kit) /footmouth off

 

Me to Bart, we have similar mods (different tunes), unless you've added some stuff I don't know about.

 

So you bought yours used I got mine new, you fail dude. GO TO A DYNO and stop trying to be a prophet.

 

don't worry, when it gets warmer I will get a dyno, my tune on my stock car isn't even as far as it can be. im going to get 60-100 in 5.75 tune only, I might have to buy an air filter though, its getting dirty. which that is faster than stock by roughly 3 seconds in that speed only.

 

Thx Tom, I totally forgot that Vince purposely limits the torque on the factory clutch so your not slipping it all over the place with the Trifecta tune. I have yet to slip the clutch in any gear with the new tune, pulls strong start to finish Popped the IC hose tonight on the way back from a car show. I have the 3 ply silicone connectors and t-bolts, thought I tightened them down enough, guess not luckily I was a few blocks from home.

Looking forward to my next Trifecta update after the turbo wheel upgrade and clutch install later this summer.