Water/Methanol Injection
 

Has anyone used a water/methanol injection kit? If so, how well did it work? What have you noticed after running it?

I just found a killer deal on a AEM 30-3300 and want to know any pros/cons.

:welcome8: aboard Timpanzi!

A quick poke around using our Google linked Search function brought up the following, just click the link below and read away.

https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/esp_...ction&type=gcs

Yeah, but that thread is just taking about how this guy "is gonna get this system or that one".

I'm curious as to what results anyone has seen with a methanol system.

I only recall a couple of members here trying the meth setup. You might get more info from the folks over at the CobaltSS site.

Fwiw. Unless you're running some serious mods where that system may be needed, then it's probably just "overkill" if you want it for a daily driver car.
Regardless if it's a great deal.

That's probably true. But when I get it tuned and am pushing more than 15lbs of boost, it can't hurt.

Long term effects on the engine, as far as what I have read, are very bad if the kit is not done correctly and a proper tune is not done. If you REALLY do your research and be careful about the install as well as tune, you should be alright. IMO its just another system to install and another possible failure point and, if something goes wrong, the cost to fix it would outweigh the money saved on gas by installing it. When it works its great, when it fails its catastrophic.

From the AEM website; "Note: AEM holds no responsibility for any engine damage or personal injury that results from the misuse of this product, including but not limited to injury or death caused by the mishandling of methanol."

FWIW I'm boosting 22 -23lbs with no meth. A good LNF tune, basic mods and a E47 mix of fuel is a very good bang for the buck.

Do some searches on 2005HHRauto's mods he's got a lot of this figured out. In general do a lot of reading.

OK. If that's what you believe, then go ahead and install it.

Fwiw. There are many of us SS owners "tuned" in varying ways and pushing more than 15lbs. without any injection systems. Even the tame GM Stage 1 will give you over 20lbs. without them even mentioning needing a system to go with it.

I understand there are ramifications of running it incorrectly. I also understand that there are plenty of people that run higher boost and do not run these systems.

But if I can add additional cooling and knock resistance, while adding a few extra hp, why not do it? Im not talking about running 30 lbs of boost relying solely on this system for protection.

Good points. You sound like you might be an Engineer or techie type. Just be prepared to do a lot of monitoring/testing. Ambient temp plays into this as does ambient humidity.

My brother runs it in a turbo Miata - in CO, where it's always dry, and he doesn't play in the cold. Consider things like that before you jump in with both feet. Can you easily substitute increased percentages of ethanol, which could help with the cold?

Just some questions. Out of the box is OK. Just trying to fill you in why there are fences in some areas...

Yeah I will try to consider all of the factors. I appreciate everyone's input.

I am running a modified Devils own system on my 2.2 thats supercharged. I am running 16 lbs of boost. I have a 1gph nozzle with pressure set at 100 lbs. It turns on at 1psi of boost. I have down loaded my ecm logs and have found that the inlet air charge is a lot cooler and the timing is not retarding as far as it use to so I may be getting a little more power. Wont know till the next run on the dyno.

There is A LOT of safe power to be gained with just a tune. If you are after max power(doesn't sound like you are) then do it otherwise I think you're adding unnecessary complexity.

RF2 is yours progressive or a switch?

I was not after more power. I was after detonation control. with a 10/1 engine and 16lbs of boost any detonation can be very bad. At my time at Shelby we found that high boost numbers not always got you more power. Less boost with more timing some times got you just as much and would let your motor live a lot longer.
Progressive switches are for the people who want to try to get a lot of power.

I just purchased an AquaMist system. It has many advanced neat features. I will post once I get it installed how I like it.