That's what it all boils down to Will (and everyone!), - preference. If you go back and re-read my initial post, I did not start this thread to slam the Airaid intake. In fact, I bought one to test against the CGS with the intention of selling them both. Many online stores sell more than one intake, but after driving them both - it just wasn't worth it for me to carry the Airaid. The HHR runs "different" with it on - and I prefer the way it runs with the CGS instead. The CGS also doesn't require any assembly, and it installs in less than 10-minutes, which is a big bonus for new modders.

CGS has also made intakes privately for GM on several other Ecotec engines, and I knew they had experience with the flow dynamics. A comment was made that Airaid "developed" intakes for BOTH 2.2L and 2.4L engines. Well, dont' believe it until you see dyno charts - they just happened to "discover" that both engines use the same throttle body and "it fits." I searched around quite a bit for Airaid info and have already seen conflicting figures posted on different sites (8hp/8ftlbs and 5hp/5ftlbs), but no dyno charts to back anything up?

I've done my fair share of intake development for the HHR in the past few months; working with K&N, then AEM, then True Flow, then CGS. K&N was the first to start work on an HHR intake - and they have still not released a production model. I just received an email from AEM at the end of last week - they have dropped the HHR from their product list now. No intake coming from AEM - even after we took 2 HHR's in (both manual & auto), for them to measure, dyno, and fit test. They had my personal HHR for 2 weeks! (Does anyone wonder why these companies are not releasing intakes?)

Basically, buy whichever model you like, whichever you can afford, whichever throws your switch. It doesn't matter to me. I'm selling tons of CGS intakes and they're not even released yet. That's not the reason for my post. I posted this because on an enthusiast's forum such as this one, some folks are interested in hearing about performance comparisons.

It's the 4 or 5 who have to slam everything I post that tick me off. Especially when they have ulterior motives...(you know who you are). I don't have to do these reviews. I didn't have to buy a junk intake that I'm going to have to sell and put the stupid thing together, bolt it on my car and do some testing. I don't have to pay money out of my own pocket to have all three dyno'd either! But I'm doing it - for the sake of the enthusiasts who care about performance and want the best value for their dollar.

I spent 20 years managing magazines, and watching "other" mags do shootouts where the guy who won "just happened" to drop a big ad that month. Not one month - every month! My mags never worked that way and I don't work that way. SoCalHHR's will continue to provide the best products at the best value for the HHR owner. Because that's what I'm about.

End of rant.

 

I don't because it was an American car with an American engine. If I remember correctly Yamaha just designed the engine and Ford built it.

 

The Vette is different because they are ducting cold air from elsewhere. I'm talking about just a tube with an oil filter stuck on the end in a hot point of the engine bay. I know they can be bought for American cars but I usually on see them on imports. There are several styles like the CGS for the Mustang but most people avoided them unless they were going for the ricer look with their Stang. Performance usually outweighs looks. Most people I know either went with something like a DenseCharger or a March Ram Air Kit. A real CAI as opposed to a hot oil tube. More importantly why are people trying to disprove my opinion? I didn't state it as a fact if you go back and read my post. I was talking about my personal opinion on how they looked and that can't be changed.

 

I too love Corvairs, although I don't have one now. Our last Corvair project was a 65 Convertable with a mid engine 1962 Olds aluminum 215 CID V8. That was an awsome car.

OK, you may now have your thread back

 

Thats right.. ducting cold air somewhere else....

 

NOW yer talkin" That is my favorite engine from the sixties and seventies! I had one in my '62 Skylark. What a fun aluminum power plant! And a mid-engine plant in a 'Vair? Great combo.
We really gotta start another thread here.................

OK, you may now have your thread back

 

Dayam, your about the first person I know of that even heard of the 215. When we first got married we had a little white 62 Skylark with the 215. We loved it, cause it looked like a baby Buick, and with the 215 and 4 barrel I could kick some serious butt with it against many camaro's and mustangs. We used to blow their minds.

OK, thread hyjack complete.....

 

Hey, dan, ya ol' fart... Rembember the 62-63 Olds Jetfire? It had the 215 with a turbo.

GM sold the tooling for the 215 to one of the European manufacturers, Rover, I think.

 

Yeah Joe I do remember them. The Olds 215 and Buick 215's had different heads also. GM did sell the tooling to the Europeans. They used the 215 in the Triumph TR-8 and I think their still using it in the Rovers. Doing away with the 215 in the US market is still one of GM's biggest mistakes IMO.

 

Hey Mike I here you ,but it's just better to state the facts . I know that people like you and myself make modding cars a lot better [We care if something works as stated ] . Most people don't realize how easy it is to modify a dyno chart to make some sales . I respect you for putting your money up to find out what the truth is . I thank you as this will be one less thing I have to test on the dyno .LOL. I would bet dollars to donuts the Airraid will have more heat soak then the CGS just from filter placement. I think you should do a test and let them idle for 2-3 minute's with the air on ,then put them on the dyno . FYI the air intake temp will pull boat loads of timing out so the cooler the air the better.


And another thing I wanted to know if there was any temp changes from your first run and the intake test's ?


Thanks
Matt
www.tunetimeperformance.com