Nice try to defame me Joe - but I'm afraid your attempt backfired! During our test, both the Airaid and OEM airbox received fresh cool outside air (by having the duct hose directly fed by the 48" cooling fan) - while the CGS did not! Since the CGS filter resides far down in the engine bay, and can only receive "cool" outside air while the vehicle is actually driving down the road - all it received was "hot" engine bay air.

Still, the CGS outperformed both the stock and AiRaid intakes by a WIDE margin.

As far as dyno'ing with the hood up - you're stupid if you don't. The HHR got up to 229-degrees after some runs, and since there is not "real world" cooling air entering the grille, you need a fan and the hood up to get the airflow required to cool an engine.

Here are a few links to some dyno videos for you (notice the hoods are up):

05 Mustang GT at Walker DynoTune

07 Acura RDX at DynoLab in Murrieta, GA.

06 C6 Z06 Corvette

I could point you to hundreds of others to substantiate my claim.

Give it a rest...

 

Everybody take a breather..don't want this turning into another war

 

i installed some really fancy streamlined sun visors with with highspeed paint. bet i picked up 30-40 hp!

 

Using the word "defame" is getting a little out of hand, Mike!

It's about time this forum got some scientifically accurate info to make their decisions by.

Like I stated earlier, "I have considerable hard data what that effect is and will post that in the near future." That includes some in depth testing with thermocouples, results calculated with SAE formulas and confirmed by dyno testing.

I still haven't done anything regarding an intake and am looking at this with an open and educated mind before making any decision as time allows.

Nothing personal.... just stating that in comparing intakes, that test was flawed and did not represent real world driving conditions, as air temp entering the engine has a significant effect on power output.

 

Here are some pics from our dyno tests Joe. Take a good look:



See the round intake hose propped up on the rediator support? Now tell me you're going to get any more "real world" than that on a dyno? It's getting fresh air! *NOTE: Repeating myself> The CGS received NO benefit from this as it's filter was buried far down in the engine bay - drawing only hot air.



It only makes sense that under actual driving conditions the CGS will make slightly more power than tested, as it would then receive cooler air from the fenderwell access hole.

You don't need a dyno to see the difference. If you simply buy both intakes like we did, put them on your car and do some timed tests, you too will see that the CGS makes substantially more power than the AiRaid system. The engine runs better and pulls much harder.

Have fun!

 

The way I see it, if you want to prove your point, then prove it. One has shown his method. One has not. A picture speaks a thousand words and allows others to come up with their own conclusion.

 

Maybe there are contractual stipulations that have to be satisfied before said data can be presented. You can't just release a company's info without their permission.

 

True, but if I put it on a dyno, I can submit my results.

 

Yup. I was just trying to point out that sometimes it is not that simple. Maybe Joe's data is from a situation like I described above. I know I would be pissed as a company owner is somebody disclosed my data before given permission, just to prove a point none the less.

 

Lets not forget the topic of this thread... it's members fastsuv Steve experience... titled :"Just got my 1LT on the Dyno this morning ".