PCMforless
PCMforless
Has anybody had any experience with these? I am just looking into it to improve MPG and add a lil pep to the 2.4. I have never done anything like this so I am looking for advise or someone that has done it. Here is a link to the one I found.
http://www.pcmforless.com/index.php?...d=56&Itemid=40
http://www.pcmforless.com/index.php?...d=56&Itemid=40
Not personally, but I'm hoping to pull the trigger in spring. Lots folks over at Trailvoy.com swear by them for tunes on Trailblazers and Envoys.
http://forums.trailvoy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=116
http://forums.trailvoy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=116
But with a tune its cheaper, yet can provide better results.
From what I have been reading, CAI, Exhaust, etc, can give 3-5 per mod, yet they are $250-600. PCM's can yield 10-25 and with PCMforless its $139 give or take.
Its faster and doesn't require any shop time, like putting a new exhaust on would.
At least that's what I have gathered in my short time here.
From what I have been reading, CAI, Exhaust, etc, can give 3-5 per mod, yet they are $250-600. PCM's can yield 10-25 and with PCMforless its $139 give or take.
Its faster and doesn't require any shop time, like putting a new exhaust on would.
At least that's what I have gathered in my short time here.
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Joined: 01-13-2006
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From: Superior, WI - Over the Hill Warranty Club member
Absolutely...you were the one I was looking at until I stumbled across the other one. I am an impatient person and would rather drive down and have it done than wait for something to be shipped

Now if it doesn't work out at least I know I have another solid option :)
They have a full shop with a dyno, located just outside of Mooresville.
Alvin, the owner, is an engineer, who knows what he is doing. Their facility, in an industrial park that contains some racing team operations, does a lot of tuning for the team people. I've seen a few "known named" cars there for tuning.
Your best bet would be to contact them directly and see if what they have to offer meets you desires.
BTW, some of the "numbers" posted fall under the realm of false advertising and ricer math....

The stock HHR intake is NOT restrictive!! I have documented proof that the CGS (for example) after many dyno pulls, will actually LOOSE HP, and that the stock exhaust is pretty efficient!
IOW, don't expect real gains from either exhaust or intake!! There have NEVER been creditible figures documented on either.
A GOOD tune will result in better response, better MPG, but little overall power gains over stock.
Them's the FACTS unless someone can prove otherwise!
Alvin, the owner, is an engineer, who knows what he is doing. Their facility, in an industrial park that contains some racing team operations, does a lot of tuning for the team people. I've seen a few "known named" cars there for tuning.
Your best bet would be to contact them directly and see if what they have to offer meets you desires.
BTW, some of the "numbers" posted fall under the realm of false advertising and ricer math....
The stock HHR intake is NOT restrictive!! I have documented proof that the CGS (for example) after many dyno pulls, will actually LOOSE HP, and that the stock exhaust is pretty efficient!
IOW, don't expect real gains from either exhaust or intake!! There have NEVER been creditible figures documented on either.
A GOOD tune will result in better response, better MPG, but little overall power gains over stock.
Them's the FACTS unless someone can prove otherwise!


