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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeR
When are you going to understand, Mike, that this is an offset and treadwidth issue that has nothing to do with rim width???

If someone changes rims and the offset stays the same (42 mm, for example, which is the stock HHR figure) and goes to a wider rim width without any other changes, the location of the tread stays in the exact same location in the fenderwell.

Please, find a site that explains this to be truely helpful here and not continue with posting erroneous info. Please don't take this wrong, but some of these newer people looking to buy rims will be making a decision and maybe not getting what they would really like (and that may include you) because of statements like this. Peace!
I have to say, you both are correct in this. and I think what is missing is that when one does get a wider rim, they are automatically going to get a wider tire.

http://www.sportssix.info/wheeldata.php

Just like your example JOE, surely if you upgrade your rim with same offset, but go wider rim, say 8.5", and you mount the stock 215 tire, the tire threads will stay in the same position. I am sure there are some limitations to all this that we must all remember, like the stock 215 tire may not be able to mount on a 8.5" wheel...So it is almost assumed that most folks will purchase proper tires for their new wheels, and hence, may run into the tire rubbing on the fenderwell....

My example, is that I went with a 8.5" wide wheel. The tires that I got was a 235 40..I think this was the thinnest tire that would mount to the 8.5" wheel. When you look at front face of the tire/wheel, the outer most rim and the tire are about the same level. I really should have gone to a 245 or 255 wide tire for the 8.5" wheel. But, needless to say, during a routine rotation, I accidentally slipped one of the wheels and it rolled on my driveway facing down. All I could hear was the metal scratching on the concrete. My tire did not protect my wheel face, because it is so thin compared to the rim and now I have little dings and pits on the face of my beautiful FOOSE wheel....%(&$&^# Lesson learned.....
Old May 12, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Erf that SUX! I hope nothing like that happens to my Giovanna's! My tires are basically on line with the rim. I think I would shed a tear if that happens to me!

Back when I was new to low profile wheels and tires I scraped my wheels. Now I'm extremely careful when I parralel park and make sharp right turns.

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Old May 12, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeR
When are you going to understand, Mike, that this is an offset and treadwidth issue that has nothing to do with rim width???

If someone changes rims and the offset stays the same (42 mm, for example, which is the stock HHR figure) and goes to a wider rim width without any other changes, the location of the tread stays in the exact same location in the fenderwell.

Please, find a site that explains this to be truely helpful here and not continue with posting erroneous info. Please don't take this wrong, but some of these newer people looking to buy rims will be making a decision and maybe not getting what they would really like (and that may include you) because of statements like this. Peace!
Joe, first off, I've sold and installed THOUSANDS of sets of rims/tires in my life. Second, maybe take a course on it first...then find me a FWD rim with more than a 42mm offset that fits the HHR - you won't.

Quit acting like a diety.
Old May 12, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Old May 12, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Old May 12, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ng8650
Erf that SUX! I hope nothing like that happens to my Giovanna's! My tires are basically on line with the rim. I think I would shed a tear if that happens to me!

Back when I was new to low profile wheels and tires I scraped my wheels. Now I'm extremely careful when I parralel park and make sharp right turns.

Ng
I did worse than shed a tear, I was so mad I started yelling, in general, but my wife happened to be in the path (like how I worded that one..) Well, she took both offense and simpathy....But, just imagine, I really had to apologize for my outburst.....which was the truth of the matter, she is more important that my baby HHR and the hella expensive shoes I put on it.....

Anyway, I am no longer sleeping in da dog house....
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalHHR
The model I wanted (Nitrous G), only came in an 8-inch width.

I race my HHR a lot and didn't want to slow it down THAT much!

The 17x7's I have now (Riaxx Fontana's (by American Racing)), are just perfect.

Plus, they are color matched to the body paint!
That was the part I didn't care for (just my opinion). I don't think wheels the same color as the car produce the same effect as a contrasting color or chrome. It's like the fad when guys were painting the chrome on their classic cars the body color - they ruined the effect. Dark center 5 spoke mags are for light colored cars, IMHO.
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kodak_jack
chrome on their classic cars the body color - they ruined the effect.
Hey, I like that look. That's probably what I'm going to do with my Malibu.
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by erf2u
I did worse than shed a tear, I was so mad I started yelling, in general, but my wife happened to be in the path (like how I worded that one..) Well, she took both offense and simpathy....But, just imagine, I really had to apologize for my outburst.....which was the truth of the matter, she is more important that my baby HHR and the hella expensive shoes I put on it.....

Anyway, I am no longer sleeping in da dog house....
I feel your pain...
Old May 12, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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OK this is really it!!!!!!!!!! Chrome, not black.......






18"by 7.5 42MM offset with Perelli 215 45 18's



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