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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Question Frequency help

I need a little help. Im trying to decide what enclosure to go with between a slot ported box from bassworx ( this box looks are appealing and each chamber has its on slot port but this is the bulkier box its tuned to 37 hz or another slot ported enclosure which is a bit smaller which is a plus and i can raise the rear platform that covers the area where the spare is and position it up to conceal the box now this box features only one slot port in the middle which both chambers share and is tuned to 45 hz what do you think? I dont know if theres much difference between 37 and 45 hz but any feedback would be greatly appreciated thanx in advance.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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I depends on the subs you are using.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Well, there is going to be a huge difference insode the vehicle. Unfortunately, I have not installed my system yet (waiting on the DIN kit from Scosche), so I can't tell you what problem frequencies are in the HHR.

Are you trying to get "booming' bass, or do you want it to hit hard and accurate? I also own a recording studio, so I might be able to help out a bit.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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i want booming bass because i listen to mostly rap music. Im using two 12" premier woofers with a max rating of 1200 watts
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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A good place to start is Pioneers web site and see what they recomend. You should be able to see the manual for your model in .PDF form.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Well, I know you wanted to use the package shelf (from your post), but I would recommend the enclosure with 2 separated internal boxes - 1 for each woofer. This will give you the cleanest bass sound. One thing you need to know, but did not mention - what is the "sensitivity" rating on each of theses; and are they 4 or 2 ohm?

This rating will tell you what kind of power you'll need to acheive the desired SPL.
Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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I would guess they are dual 4ohm voice coils but there are several models of Pioneer Premier subs.
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalHHR
Well, I know you wanted to use the package shelf (from your post), but I would recommend the enclosure with 2 separated internal boxes - 1 for each woofer. This will give you the cleanest bass sound. One thing you need to know, but did not mention - what is the "sensitivity" rating on each of theses; and are they 4 or 2 ohm?

This rating will tell you what kind of power you'll need to acheive the desired SPL.
Actually with ported boxes you're better off having a common chamber. It's a good idea to have separate chambers for sealed boxes, because if one of the subs blows, the other will theoretically 'see' the entire volume of the enclosure, increasing efficiency, and decreasing the power handling of the woofer. With a ported box, however, if one subwoofer blows, the other will still assume the same internal volume of the enclosure. Also, with separate chambers, the ports in either chamber have to be identical in port area as well as tuning...or else you will get cancellation.

As far as the boxes...go with the one with the lower tuning. 37hz is a little high IMO, but 45 is too high for a daily driving enclosure. Make sure your amplifier has a subsonic filter as well, and set it to around 25 hz. A ported box will generally 'unload' at 1 octave below tuning, basically causing the subwoofers to start bottoming out, throwing the suspension off, and eventually misaligning the voice coil, rendering the sub useless :)

Also...the efficiency is not all that important...most companies overexaggerate their efficiency ratings (there is no real standard to measure such specifications). I'd worry more about properly matching the subwoofers to the right enclosure.
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Dude, so much bass, it starts affecting the suspension, what if the my HHR is lowered, also???!!!



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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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Well, thanks for al the help. Had the subs installed already, the box is big or bigger than i really wanted but im comfortable with it for now since i will upgrade to a sealed enclosure later on. Overall im happy with the set up bass is very deep and loud but i realize that i prefer sealed enclosures. Im still waiting to get the new faceplate for the sub box bcuz the one i have is red and i want the blue one but i'll post pics soon. Again thanks for all the helpful info



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