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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Ground Loop Isolator

How does a ground loop isolator work? Does it create a loss of any frequency or sound quality? I was getting an alternator whine and buzzing at idle-it went away, or increased in Hz above hearing range, once I stepped on the gas. It was very annoying, to say the least. The RCA cables I used are a good brand, but the noise went away when I disconnected the front and rear from the amp (the sub amp is noise free). I tried using a different set of RCA wires, and the noise went away. But I did not want to go through the hassle of rewiring the entire car, and rewrapping the harness. By the way, the power wires are on the other side of the car and amp board so I dont think that is the problem. To avoid changing the cables, I tried a couple of ground loop isolators, and they also eliminated the noise. It is a much simplier solution, as long as it is not causing any damage or reducing the quality.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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I have never heard of a ground loop isolator damaging any system components. I am not an electrician but here is what I think I know. A ground loop is caused by two different components sharing a common ground. The noise created by a ground loop is voltage being applied to the common ground by one of the components. This is pretty much out of my field of knowledge so I will wait to see postings by people better equipped to discuss this. In the mean time I will refer you to my signature.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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The package said it corrected situations where the ground for the radio is in a different spot than the ground for the amplifier. But how can it do that without being connected to any grounds itself? I wonder what is inside of it? If it is just resistors, capacitors, etc then it works by eliminating the high pitched sounds, but this could possibly also reduce some of the music you want to hear. This is where I am confused.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee3333
The package said it corrected situations where the ground for the radio is in a different spot than the ground for the amplifier. But how can it do that without being connected to any grounds itself? I wonder what is inside of it? If it is just resistors, capacitors, etc then it works by eliminating the high pitched sounds, but this could possibly also reduce some of the music you want to hear. This is where I am confused.
A guess would be capacitors. I have never seen one opened up.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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I found this explanation on the internet. Based on this, it should not reduce the sound quality at all.


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A ground loop isolator contains an isolation transformer for each channel. The transformers generally have a 1:1 ratio which neither boosts nor cuts the audio level. The audio is magnetically coupled through the transformer's core. Since DC can not flow the transformer, the DC path is cut and the noise is eliminated.
Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Going thru this nightmare right now , I am gonna grab a couple from radio shack and see if it gets rid of my noise. It pisses me off so much
Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Good luck. This is a common problem for those who add amps and after market audio to their HHR's. It's going to be hit or miss troubleshooting to figure out what's really causing the problem. I had to rewire everything and I still get noise but it comes and goes. Sometimes I can hear my turn signals coming out of my two ten inch subs!

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Ng, I cant believe you said that. I had the same intermittant problem. Sometimes the noise would totally go away at idle, other times it was back. I would also get an occasional pop sound when I stepped on the brakes. But, these gound loop isolators have totally eliminated the noise.

If you buy them at Radio Shack, you can return them if they dont work so you have nothing to lose. You also need 2 pairs of female to female connectors.
Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Ng, I cant believe you said that. I had the same intermittant problem. Sometimes the noise would totally go away at idle, other times it was back. I would also get an occasional pop sound when I stepped on the brakes. But, these gound loop isolators have totally eliminated the noise.

If you buy them at Radio Shack, you can return them if they dont work so you have nothing to lose. You also need 2 pairs of female to female connectors.
One of the first things I did was buy an isolator but it didn't solve the problem. After rewiring, the noise is gone, most of the time. Its just every once in a while it comes back or I can hear the turn signals coming out of the subs. I've also found if you find a song with a real good bass and turn up the volum real loud...it will drown out most noise coming out of the speakers...:)

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Funny, but that is the exact same remedy I do for any squeaks and rattles I hear in the car-just crank up the stereo and they all go away like magic!



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