My dad has an old 51 Chevy pickup that runs and he will try this out soon enough. his mileage sucks and wanted to see if this would improve it.

(by "it" I mean the creation of Brown's gas via electrolosis... I doubt it will work, but its only 20 bucks and 2 hours of install time)

 

It wont void your warranty because it wont do shizz for you or to your car. Kill this thread...lol I make brown gas each and everyday (yuck), and it will do about the same for my hhr as that 20 bucks your about to waste.

 

Thats how the Cleveland Browns got their name... along with their play on the field.

 

I know I was there. Man, I'm still wiping it off my face. At least it was a perfect sunny day for a short walk over to the lake for a slaughter :)

 

I see the FTC is launching an investigation to stop the fraud by some selling these gas generators. Glad to see the govt can still do something right.

 

I just dont see why you all so negative on this. They are producing hydrogen based vehicles, this stuff does work. We have this on my dads 86 ford ranger, and just this weekend went and hauled some wood bed loaded and pulling a loaded trailer and got 22mpg, not sure exactly what we got before when hauling wood but empty use to get 17-20mpg ish. Ive seen these things work on more than just our vehicle, my dad actually got the idea from a friend that was playing with it, now they're figure out things together. Different methods work better, and it doesnt cost much to get it going, as soon as we perfect one it is going on the HHR. Ive tried to get a guy that has an HHR with a setup on here but havent seen heard from him.

 

The debaters from this old thread aren't as active any longer, but surely will get some new discussion going.

 

HHO (brown's gas) is crap, and there are numerous news stories that have disproven it. H2 is different and is a viable source for fuel if you can find a way to store it. The main issue with HHO is that you are trying to power your car with the same engine you are using to generate the fuel. That is like a motor hooked up to a battery which turns a generator to recharge the battery...eventually the battery dies because perpetual motion is physically impossible. It has also been stated in the forum several times that those HHO systems produce quite a bit of heat, and most people know that heat is wasted energy.

H2 is a very simple concept and most cars setup to run on LPG or natural gas can run on H2, but the issue is storage. With a large tank of gaseous hydrogen and an average size engine, you would go through the entire tank in roughly 5 minutes. I think with future technology we will be able to improve the storage capacity of hydrogen as well as the network of fuel stations, but it is not currently viable.

As for HHO, I really hope that nobody on this forum gets suckered into wasting their money on one of those scams. As one news organization put it, "The sellers of HHO have broken many laws...the law of physics is not one of them."

 

The Sept 2010 of Hot Rod magazine has an article on Smokey's hot-vapor engine Fiero. I saw this car at the Fiero Factory ( www.thefierofactory.com ) a couple of years ago. One of the guys got to drive it and it ran like a scalded cat. An experimental engine that never made it to production. It may have been a problematic engine for the general public.

 

Liquid hydrogen stored under very high in a tank in a car...the first time one collides with an 18-wheeler and explodes like the Hindenburg that will be the end of it.