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Old May 19, 2022 | 12:28 AM
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I use E85 in my 2011 2.2 quite often. MPG suffers but there is a very noticeable increase in acceleration. My wife even noticed it, and she does not easily notice these types of changes. For me, using E85 is a win.
Old May 19, 2022 | 02:00 PM
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It has not been mentioned by a few of the old timers here, so I thought I would mention that many years ago, a former member, who was the service manager for a Chevrolet dealership, said GM Corporation has written documents to dealers indicating it MAY take a few tanks of E85 to convince the computer to change the fuel tables to proper mixtures for best mileage.

Additionally, according to Federal standards, all vehicle manufactures are required to certify gas mileage to the same established city driving and highway schedule. City driving is a prescribed schedule of 25-35 mph for certain durations, stopping and idling for prescribed periods (simulates traffic signals) and other miscellaneous activities. Highway mileage simulation is at a top speed of 65 MPH with periods of coasting and acceleration to indicate light traffic. Best mileage is generally determined in the 55-65 MPH area. Vehicle physical dynamics effect the results.
Old May 19, 2022 | 02:40 PM
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I seem to get best highway mileage at 70 to 75 mph most highways I travelled to SC were 65 or 70 MAX speed limit, most traffic flow was 70 to 75. 2011 2.4 automatic, 215/50-17 tires at 35 psi cold
Old May 19, 2022 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
It has not been mentioned by a few of the old timers here, so I thought I would mention that many years ago, a former member, who was the service manager for a Chevrolet dealership, said GM Corporation has written documents to dealers indicating it MAY take a few tanks of E85 to convince the computer to change the fuel tables to proper mixtures for best mileage.
Good point.

Also, one should always turn off the ignition when refueling, but it’s especially important with a FlexFuel HHR when changing to/from E85 because that’s car’s cue to try to calculate the ethanol % in the tank. There is no ethanol sensor.

E85 or not, a FlexFuel needs the emission system working correctly or it could have trouble calculating the correct ethanol %. Thus, I would definitely never switch fuels with a CEL on.
Old May 19, 2022 | 04:26 PM
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Here is the GM link Manuals and Guides | Vehicle Support | Chevy (chevrolet.com)
Until they mess with the interwebs again.
Old May 19, 2022 | 05:47 PM
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well there you go.... I have a 2006 which is not a flex fuel.
Old May 19, 2022 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Here is the GM link Manuals and Guides | Vehicle Support | Chevy (chevrolet.com)
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Did you mean to put that here? https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/gene...s-manual-3074/
Old May 20, 2022 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jimvw
well there you go.... I have a 2006 which is not a flex fuel.
Yeah, no. Definately don’t want E85 in car not designed for it. Even if if runs well and it probably won’t, it will likely run excessively lean, light up codes, and fuel system corrosion and leaks are likely.
Old Nov 10, 2022 | 12:59 AM
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I'm at one mile elevation in Colorado. I use E85. Cost per mile driven is much cheaper with E85. (2009 2LT auto)
Old Nov 10, 2022 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hhr1919
I'm at one mile elevation in Colorado. I use E85. Cost per mile driven is much cheaper with E85. (2009 2LT auto)
got any math to back that statement up?



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