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MPG versus Final Drive Gear Ratio

Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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Sorry Sol, thought yours was also the 2.4L
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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One thing to remember though, a lower gear ratio doesn't always equal better fuel economy. There are a lot of factors involved including driving style and conditions. As an example, I have a Trailblazer with 4.10 gears, and on long trips at 72 mph, I get 22 mpg. My dad has a Trailblazer with 3.42 gears, and at that speed, it struggles to get 21 mpg. My engine seems to be in the sweet spot at that speed and RPM, while his struggles at that speed.

My SS 5 speed has a 4.05 final drive ration BTW. On the way up north this past weekend driving mostly freeway at 80-85, we averaged 28 mpg. On the way back on mostly 2 lanes at 60, the avg was 31.4.
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rgraboske
One thing to remember though, a lower gear ratio doesn't always equal better fuel economy. There are a lot of factors involved including driving style and conditions. As an example, I have a Trailblazer with 4.10 gears, and on long trips at 72 mph, I get 22 mpg. My dad has a Trailblazer with 3.42 gears, and at that speed, it struggles to get 21 mpg. My engine seems to be in the sweet spot at that speed and RPM, while his struggles at that speed.

My SS 5 speed has a 4.05 final drive ration BTW. On the way up north this past weekend driving mostly freeway at 80-85, we averaged 28 mpg. On the way back on mostly 2 lanes at 60, the avg was 31.4.
That is true, and a given BUT depending on Drive train, and conditions such as flat land vs hills, Ethenol mixed gas or straight fuel, there are going to be differences.

With a Manual car, you can keep the RPMS down and skip gears with drastically helps gas milage.

A stock tuned Auto matic has it's quirks and most times will not upshift unless its north of 3k rpms. Thats where the fuel gets wasted the most.
Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Greybeard999
I've got the FX2 3.91 ratio and am getting 29-30 mpg combined..... accelerates quite well I might add.
Same here, & great mileage

If someone is NOT getting great mileage, I think it would be prudent to explore why not ....
Old Jun 4, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Don't forget...tire size will affect this also...so be careful comparing different vehicles with similar gears...
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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specifics please

I believe the original poster got it backwards. Lower final drive ratio gives higher, "stiffer" gears and lower RPMs, and hence better mileage. I also believe that the final drive ratio on the manual non-SS was lowered in more recent HHRs to improve mileage.
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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don't forget that its not just final drive ratio but the ratio of the gears themselves as well as the tire size.
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper
Same here, & great mileage

If someone is NOT getting great mileage, I think it would be prudent to explore why not ....
I don't seem to get great mileage. 06 2.4L, 5spd.

computer fives an Avg speed of 35-40 mph, fuel mileage usually around 23 MPG.
I don't drive it like I stole it. When trying really hard to get the best mileage I can (slow accel, little braking, set cruise as often as possible) , I can't ever seem to top 27-28. highway speeds @ 55-65 mph.

That said, its not terrible. Better than the Honda Accord it replaced, surprisingly... But I thought I'd be able to squeeze 30 out of it, like some forum members seem to.
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rotaryboy23
I don't seem to get great mileage. 06 2.4L, 5spd.

computer fives an Avg speed of 35-40 mph, fuel mileage usually around 23 MPG.
I don't drive it like I stole it. When trying really hard to get the best mileage I can (slow accel, little braking, set cruise as often as possible) , I can't ever seem to top 27-28. highway speeds @ 55-65 mph.

That said, its not terrible. Better than the Honda Accord it replaced, surprisingly... But I thought I'd be able to squeeze 30 out of it, like some forum members seem to.
Try using different brands of gas, I know when I use Shell 93, I get less mpg..
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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True. I've been using 87 octane... Totally Forgot about that. i'm currently getting 28.5 on it though. Being REALLY gentle...

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