CEL* P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0300, P2135 reduced engine power & service ECS
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CEL* P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0300, P2135 reduced engine power & service ECS
Howdy Folks,
Thanks in advance for the help.. I have referenced this forum many times and found it to be extremely helpful; this is my first post.
I have a 2011 HHR 2.2L with 137k miles that has started going into limp mode with reduced power, now flagging check engine codes CEL* P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0300, P2135.
Recent lights and work completed. Earlier this year had an intermittent service ECS only light pop up. More recently had ABS and ECS both on together for about a month, and an intermittent CEL. Last week I got limp mode for the first time and while in the shop mechanic (Belle Tire) “said” he was not able to read any engine codes at all, which we both right was weird given that limp mode happened for a cycle, and then drive fine for next 3 Cycles. He did say he had codes for passenger front and driver side rear wheel hub’s with speed sensor. Those got replaced and I drove away fine but still with a CEL.
Since then we have had several reduced engine power or limp modes that also then lights up service ECS, where if the car is cycled off and then back on seems to run fine and ECS goes away. Some speculation that the cold weather may be affecting whatever is going on as it seems to run fine after it’s been warmed up.
The Belle Tire mechanic pulled the codes for me today and though it’s work they don’t do advised that he thinks it is both variable valve timing solenoid and exhaust camshaft position activator solenoid. Does this seem like a reasonable explanation and course of action for anyone that has experienced similar?
Another mechanic over phone quoted me $400 with the listed codes as both solenoids that would need to be replaced are right next to each other under the engine cover… but they are out over a week for appointments.
Any additional thoughts and or advice in advance is appreciated as I am trying to find a mechanic that can do it sooner but based on some phone calls made to other mechanics I am told it could be any number of other things and expensive to repair.
Thanks!
Thanks in advance for the help.. I have referenced this forum many times and found it to be extremely helpful; this is my first post.
I have a 2011 HHR 2.2L with 137k miles that has started going into limp mode with reduced power, now flagging check engine codes CEL* P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0300, P2135.
Recent lights and work completed. Earlier this year had an intermittent service ECS only light pop up. More recently had ABS and ECS both on together for about a month, and an intermittent CEL. Last week I got limp mode for the first time and while in the shop mechanic (Belle Tire) “said” he was not able to read any engine codes at all, which we both right was weird given that limp mode happened for a cycle, and then drive fine for next 3 Cycles. He did say he had codes for passenger front and driver side rear wheel hub’s with speed sensor. Those got replaced and I drove away fine but still with a CEL.
Since then we have had several reduced engine power or limp modes that also then lights up service ECS, where if the car is cycled off and then back on seems to run fine and ECS goes away. Some speculation that the cold weather may be affecting whatever is going on as it seems to run fine after it’s been warmed up.
The Belle Tire mechanic pulled the codes for me today and though it’s work they don’t do advised that he thinks it is both variable valve timing solenoid and exhaust camshaft position activator solenoid. Does this seem like a reasonable explanation and course of action for anyone that has experienced similar?
Another mechanic over phone quoted me $400 with the listed codes as both solenoids that would need to be replaced are right next to each other under the engine cover… but they are out over a week for appointments.
Any additional thoughts and or advice in advance is appreciated as I am trying to find a mechanic that can do it sooner but based on some phone calls made to other mechanics I am told it could be any number of other things and expensive to repair.
Thanks!
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Welcome to the site,
These codes are really easy to fix!
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-...13-14-a-28779/
I highly recommend installing new AC Delco solenoids , however I see they are on back order,
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Our members get a discount from RockAuto,
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/supp...-2022-a-61707/
you can of coarse order on line some where else but do compare prices.
These codes are really easy to fix!
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-...13-14-a-28779/
I highly recommend installing new AC Delco solenoids , however I see they are on back order,
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...actuator,12910
Our members get a discount from RockAuto,
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/supp...-2022-a-61707/
you can of coarse order on line some where else but do compare prices.
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From: California
to the forums!!Yes, as Oldblue directed, the p0010 through p0014 are an easy fix, and replacing those 2 solenoid valves may fix the p0300 non specific misfire. Then see if you're still getting the p2135.
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From: Northern Ohio
Water under the bridge but resolve to address or at least check out CELs immediately when they happen. It makes diagnosis a lot easier. Strange for P0010-11 to happene at the exact same time as P0013-14, and knowing when P2135 happened would help too.
What your Belle Tire guy is saying makes sense, ECS could be hub sensor, or the connector, or wiring to it, BUT -
All this intermittent trouble MIGHT be voltage problems. How old is the battery? Cold weather will unmask a weak one. Does the car sit for long periods like weeks? You probably needed to replace the camshaft solenoid valves, but before you do, you should make sure you have a good battery, and also have a good look at the wiring and connects to the solenoid and to the throttle position sensor, and look into fuse panel stuff (which I’ve never had the pleasure of dealing with but plenty written about in these forums.) You live in Michigan, lots of road salt in places, so lots of electrical gremlins in older cars due to corrosion.
$400 is a bit much for just replacing the two solenoids, but in some markets, there long waits appointments with good mechanics and they are charging accordingly. Unless you run into trouble, changing these things is easier than changing oil.
What your Belle Tire guy is saying makes sense, ECS could be hub sensor, or the connector, or wiring to it, BUT -
All this intermittent trouble MIGHT be voltage problems. How old is the battery? Cold weather will unmask a weak one. Does the car sit for long periods like weeks? You probably needed to replace the camshaft solenoid valves, but before you do, you should make sure you have a good battery, and also have a good look at the wiring and connects to the solenoid and to the throttle position sensor, and look into fuse panel stuff (which I’ve never had the pleasure of dealing with but plenty written about in these forums.) You live in Michigan, lots of road salt in places, so lots of electrical gremlins in older cars due to corrosion.
$400 is a bit much for just replacing the two solenoids, but in some markets, there long waits appointments with good mechanics and they are charging accordingly. Unless you run into trouble, changing these things is easier than changing oil.
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Joined: 10-13-2011
Posts: 40,068
From: Welland,Ont Canada
The P2135 could be a ground wire problem, rodents or corrosion.
https://www.obd-codes.com/p2135
Fix the solenoids first and see .
https://www.obd-codes.com/p2135
Fix the solenoids first and see .
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Joined: 10-13-2011
Posts: 40,068
From: Welland,Ont Canada
Agreed, fix the P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014 and those other codes might disappear.
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AC Delco intake part number 12679099 is in stock , if you enter the exhaust part number 12679100 in the RockAuto search they will notify you when th part is in stock and you can order it
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From: Northern Ohio
Good chance there are C codes. I had ESC/stabilitrac Christmas tree, found no codes on my own but C0035 and 45 (LF & LR) courtesy of OReilly’s in my 2010 Buick, but also had roaring like a bad bearing in the rear, didn’t want to get cold so off to the trusted mechanic, ended up with 2 rear bearings, one on the right with bad rolling elements and the other with bad magnet ring or something, didn’t ask too many questions because it’s fixed and the codes are gone. Hope I don’t see the C0035 again.
