LDK Build 2.0
Hi Everyone!
It's been a while - so good to see everyone is still active on the site. As some of you know, I documented the LDK swap build on my 2010 SS Auto . Since then, the car has been tuned by ZZP, we installed a 3" catless downpipe/3" exhaust setup, and a LT1 fuel pump to support all the bolt ons, as well as a trans tune from fellow HHR enthusiast Shane Hatfield. Now it's time to take the engine out and do it all over again. This (hopefully) will be the last time the engine comes out of the car, as it's time to strengthen internals for a bigger turbo. Here's what will be going in the car: Wiseco Pistons ZZP 4340 Rods Supertech 94# dual springs and retainers Stage 2 LHU/LDK cams by Comp Cams/ZZP BorgWarner S257SXE turbo ZZP exhaust manifold ZZP catless turbo downpipe TiAL 42mm actuator TiAL 50mm BOV ZZP upper intercooler charge pipe with BOV flange The goal is to get to 500 HP on 93 pump gas. This car is rarely driven (maybe 1,000 miles a year) and is primarily a show car that I'd like to take on the drag strip for exhibition. Ryan at ZZP said I can easily get to 475WHP with what I currently have on the car, and what's about to go in. They mention the concern about blowing the trans, but we all know what 2005HHRauto has done on the strip with his 4t45e! I plan to document the build process like last time, but the only difference is I'm going to film it as well. Check out the intro video here - Looking forward to sharing this build with all of you...again! |
Looking forward to the build, and pictures, we love pictures !
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Drummerboy just subscribed to your Youtube channel. Well put together, background music, meh.
Question: 1) Did you rob Fort Knox to to this or is someone at ZZP your uncle ? :lol: 2) I guess when you say 500 HP that's at the flywheel ? Will be following along on this build. You have done your homework. |
Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
(Post 866194)
Drummerboy just subscribed to your Youtube channel. Well put together, background music, meh.
Question: 1) Did you rob Fort Knox to to this or is someone at ZZP your uncle ? :lol: 2) I guess when you say 500 HP that's at the flywheel ? Will be following along on this build. You have done your homework. And I'm talking to the wheels. With everything else done to the car already, these additional mods should get us around 475WHP on 93 easily (according to Ryan at ZZP). It's a matter of seeing how the 4t45e holds up to it. Many thanks - I want to do this once, so it's been a few years of researching! |
I am tuned by zzp. With zfr6758 to 320whp. They strongly advised me not to go any higher with my auto transmission.
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Nick, in your Youtube video you showed the pistons. con rods and balancer. You never mention if the rotating assembly will be balanced.
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Generally high end rods and pistons are already weight matched. WIth a 4 cyl they are opposed, ie 2 up 2 down, zero balance. When I have LNF's balanced they have been spot on, fwiw.
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Originally Posted by DrLoch
(Post 866460)
Generally high end rods and pistons are already weight matched. WIth a 4 cyl they are opposed, ie 2 up 2 down, zero balance. When I have LNF's balanced they have been spot on, fwiw.
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
(Post 866265)
Nick, in your Youtube video you showed the pistons. con rods and balancer. You never mention if the rotating assembly will be balanced.
This motor only has 4,000 miles on it, so it should be ok. |
Originally Posted by Ohiocruiser
(Post 866256)
I am tuned by zzp. With zfr6758 to 320whp. They strongly advised me not to go any higher with my auto transmission.
I even talked to Fred at SMG Motoring, who sold a beefed up 4t45e on Cobaltss.net a few years back that could easily handle that kind of power. Unfortunately they don't touch the trans since GM no longer supports the 4t45e for racing purposes. Fred said exactly what 2005HHRAuto has mentioned - replace trans fluid/filter frequently, and keep temps down. I'll run an external trans cooler along with the OEM, and I have a trans tune on the car to help keep the temps down. Last thing Fred mentioned was to keep the car in I if I put it on the track - that will keep it out of 4th and help keep temps down. Could it fail? Absolutely. |
The mystery is when will it fail?
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
(Post 866500)
The mystery is when will it fail?
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Originally Posted by DrLoch
(Post 866515)
I agree. With your power level intentions you'd be wise to replace the half shafts.
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Not really true. https://www.driveshaftshop.com/domes...evrolet/cobalt
I've contacted them, would need to send them an existing shaft to compare or get the measurements they want. |
Originally Posted by DrLoch
(Post 866527)
Not really true. https://www.driveshaftshop.com/domes...evrolet/cobalt
I've contacted them, would need to send them an existing shaft to compare or get the measurements they want. |
If you have the money anything can be fabricated.
DrLoch sorry for the repeat of their site. https://www.driveshaftshop.com/domes...evrolet/cobalt |
UPDATE:
Memorial Day Weekend we officially began the journey with this build. We had the motor/front end out of the car is a little over 2 hours. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...911162525d.jpg The rest of the day however was us stripping the motor down to the block and head. The machinist wants it in its basic form with no extras attached to it. Although this motor only has about 4000 miles on it, doing this build has helped us see some issues that need to get fixed along the way. First thing - fuel on the front of the block. When we tried to remove the opel injectors, the fuel rail came off, but the injectors were stuck in the block. Turns out one of the injectors is missing the straw that goes into the fuel rail. This could be the reason for the fuel leak, and definitely the reason why the car would break up on the top end. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...9df97ea47e.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d5b7ed874a.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...cfc984d715.jpg Another thing we noticed was oil around the HPFP. Originally we thought it was due to the LT1 fuel pump in the engine, but it was from the intake cam sensor. Further inspection showed a nic in the rubber grommet - easy fix! Removed both intake and exhaust manifolds - everything looked good up front. Exhaust manifold however there was a little black ring around the far left port. This explains why I would blow a little black smoke under heavy load. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...c1cd2d4fac.jpg Other than that, everything else looks good - as we expected since the motor only has about 4000 miles on it. Removed the valve cover, stock k04 turbo and oil lines, the water pump cover, front cover - basically everything until we had a bare block and head. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...25fc77a1b2.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...8e36e3745e.jpg Check out the video of us removing the motor from the car here! - That's it for now - we are planning on dropping off the stripped down motor and all internals to the machinist this upcoming Friday. I'll update when we get the call to pick it up. |
OK first thing first, I never hit the bell on your youtube to get a notice. Yeah I'm dumb at times.
Second, you know those chains can go bad real quick, like at 100K. You should change them now and save yourself some grief. :biggrin2: |
Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
(Post 867259)
OK first thing first, I never hit the bell on your youtube to get a notice. Yeah I'm dumb at times.
Second, you know those chains can go bad real quick, like at 100K. You should change them now and save yourself some grief. :biggrin2: and yes - mostly the guides tend to fail around that time. As of right now I average 1000 miles/year or less, so I’ll be long gone before 100k. :poison: |
Originally Posted by drummerboy0088
(Post 867270)
Hit that bell!!!
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We're back at it. Picked up the motor from the machinist (John at Master Machine in Salem, NJ) last week.
Everything that was done:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...ce08b3025c.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...33edf7f3d6.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...f678a59db2.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...e01a440bcf.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...058f6cc887.jpg Next Saturday we start putting the car back together. |
Fun!! That’s awesome, more pictures or maybe some how too’s for the Assembly
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UPDATE!
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...2a0255647a.jpg 2 weeks ago we started with assembly. First step was to install flywheel/flexplate to engine https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...03e651ba78.jpg The machinist didn't re-install the chains, so that was task 1. Super easy to do, but we used the Cloyes YouTube Video for a visual guide ( It's very easy to do when you do the following: Make sure crank is TDC (key cutout should be at 12 o'clock position) Balance Chain - TWO chain links are same color, 1 is different (colors vary depending on chain)
Cam Chain - Again TWO links are same color, 1 is different (colors vary depending on chain)
Midway through cam chain install Although the video advises not to rotate the crank (since color marks will not align back up with timing marks), we did it anyway a few rotations just to make sure nothing is hitting. Nothing hit, so it was time to get the engine back on the front cradle, and start putting it back together. We installed:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...04935cf515.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d7f06b95a5.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...cc3ed3f4fc.jpg This Saturday we're back at it. |
You choose not to use the top bolt replacement for the front guide?
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
(Post 872745)
You choose not to use the top bolt replacement for the front guide?
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Last Saturday we finally got the motor back in the car. Just a few more steps figuring out the air intake and vacuum lines.
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UPDATE - This build is DONE
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Nice build! I need to retune, I should reach out to ZZP. Have lots of their parts and HPT.
also, have a LDK from them. |
**UPDATE ON THE CHANNEL**
We finally put the car on the dyno to see what kind of numbers it can put down! |
Two things.
What was the top RPM limit of the pulls ? Did you remove the air filter just for the tests ? Thanks |
Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
(Post 884725)
Two things.
What was the top RPM limit of the pulls ? Did you remove the air filter just for the tests ? Thanks I have a turboguard filter that I'll primarily run. The filter is more cosmetic for shows. |
Originally Posted by drummerboy0088
(Post 884730)
I have a turboguard filter that I'll primarily run. The filter is more cosmetic for shows.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...30d2c992ac.jpg No cold air intake ? |
Yep! That’s the one.
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If it's open to the air why even use a screen that size ?
Looks good for stopping wood chips though. |
And squirrels hiding their nuts.
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
(Post 897948)
And squirrels hiding their nuts.
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That’s better than this to keep those rodents out!
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