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Another Reason for Increased Gas Pices This Summer

Old Jan 31, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Thumbs down Another Reason for Increased Gas Pices This Summer

Since the members of this forum have always expressed interest in gas prices, I thought the linked article is interesting and provides some valuable information. If you believe it, or not, is your choice.


http://www.azcentral.com/business/ar...ices30-ON.html
Old Jan 31, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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I hate these gas prices, but hey thats the free market for you. Now they just need to take the ethanol out of my gas so that i can get some more for what i'm paying
Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Once again, the move away from MTBE is screwing the consumer HARD on fuel price and value (energy content per gallon). This ticks me off SO BAD, they switch to ethanol as the oxygenator to replace MTBE, which due to ethanol's inherent crappiness causes you take about a 3% - 5% mpg hit, then on top of that, in the abscence of MTBE they now have to rely on a supposedly rare substance, alkylate, to work in conjunction with ripoffenol... I mean ethanol... which effectively RAMS IT HOME in the consumer's hershey highway by having the double-whammy effect of making a less efficient (as compared to MTBE gas) fuel cost more money up front while burning off faster per mile. Jeezus lord it riles me up. A total screwing.

Mile for mile gallon for gallon we're paying roughly three times as much for fuel as we were as recently as three or four years ago.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Sugar cane ethanol is the only real solution.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wingfeather
Sugar cane ethanol is the only real solution.
Celuose is much much better. The US finally has a plant running.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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What I find most upsetting about gas prices, is that thes 2 headlines are posted on the CNN site on the same day

Bush: 'Troubling signs' for economy

Exxon shatters profit records | $1,300 a second!



Why can't we commandeer all that oil in Iraq?
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Why can't we commandeer all that oil in Iraq?
Certain political parties would never stand for it.

What we can do is start brewing our own. Cane ethanol is very efficient to produce, and can be 100% U.S. sourced. Cellulose is less efficient (right now) to make, but is basically waste/garbage plant matter (FREE fuel, other than the refinement, which demand would help to invent a better process).
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Maybe the sheik is gonna get an HHR made of silver to go with his A8

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...=1%2C000%2C000
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wingfeather
What we can do is start brewing our own. Cane ethanol is very efficient to produce, and can be 100% U.S. sourced. Cellulose is less efficient (right now) to make, but is basically waste/garbage plant matter (FREE fuel, other than the refinement, which demand would help to invent a better process).
In my younger days, I worked for an industrial engine distributor. I remember we once had 3 - 9390 engines (all cubic inches or 153.8 liter) for a sewage treatment plant. These engines ran on the methane that **** produced. I think we are all pretty good at brewing our own.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by diskullman
In my younger days, I worked for an industrial engine distributor. I remember we once had 3 - 9390 engines (all cubic inches or 153.8 liter) for a sewage treatment plant. These engines ran on the methane that **** produced. I think we are all pretty good at brewing our own.
I'm actually looking forward to global warming if it is real, we can them more efficiently grow cane right here.

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