There aren't any sweepers left in GM. All those jobs have been outsourced for at least 2 years. I know because Oshawa plant was the last 1 to have them. Been there and seen them go.

 

The thing is I'm not in "the" union and I don't like unions at all. When you hear the stories that go on in factories etc, and I've heard them from both sides, you make up your own mind. I agree the unions go too far with their demands but management are not angels either. All you hear on the news is it's the workers on the line that is at fault. Lets hear both sides. My father was a police officer for 35 years and he had a saying. There is 3 sides to every story,( and I'll adjust it for this topic) the union side, the management side and the truth. There has been a lot of support for management on here, lets hear it from the other side for a change.

 

unfortunatley there will only be three sides,if your union youll speak for the union, if your management youll speak for the management, if youve never worked for either then youll hate both or one or the other.what ive noticed on here( and its unfortunate)most opinions about any labor force is based on stories handed down from news or a jilted employee or someone who had a bad experience.ive worked with all three. and if given the spotlight on all of them, each group could be branded. take a job your working at and i bet their at least one or more times that someone could say was not their proudest moment and would not like others to see it. lets build each other up and not down. isnt there enough crap tearing this country down instead of us adding fuel?

 

interesting ..I wonder if they are still UAW though even though a separate company pays them...It is my understanding the The UAW organized a lot of vendors too,

 

To my knowledge, here in Canada they are non union. $10-$12/hr.

 

The way it should be.

 

Oh,now we have the spelling police on the forum.Did you actually count the mistakes?

 

good post!

 

Well my Union time was at the Hoover Company.

Every day it was the Union on one side and managment on the other.

The employees were in the middle and were left in the lerch by both most of the time. The managment would tell you little and the Union would just tell us we were always getting screwed.

Managment there never screwed me but the union rules of bumping you from your job even if your were doing better work got me laid off.

Hoover like what I did but I got a better job and refused to go back.

The company I work for now is not perfect but has do much better to me than about any other company in the area would be. We are a large company owned by one man. Even with several thousand employees the managment knows who I am and can call me by my first name on site as most employees there.

They have sent me on trips to fun places and let me meet and do things I never thought I would get to do.

I am by no means a big shot at this company but I feel I have been treated as one.

Even in hard times as they are we have yet to ever have a layoff in 40 plus years. It is a tribute to the owner and the way managment treats us.

The Teamsters tired to come in and the vote was not even close.

While there may be a time and place for a union there are time and places we could do better without.

Again I am no fan of the bloated UAW but I wil be the first to say they are only 1/3 at blaime here for GM. GM managment has shot them selves enougth and they should have hard lined the UAW yerars ago as all they did is empower them to be what they became. I think a much better working relation ship could have benifited both if GM would have stopped the UAW rampage over the years.

 

$10 -$12/hour to sweep floors?!?!?!
I wonder how they deal with all the stress?

Does anyone else have a problem with this?
What does a McDonalds employee make these days?