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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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I am sure that Toyota had hopes of being #1 in Nascar, but I doubt they wanted to be #1 in Cheating. They have to be banging their heads against the wall after the investment they made to get into the cup series with Michael Waltrip. Now even if they are successful this will be a black cloud over them for some time.

Then again Jimmie Johnson cheated last year at Daytona and he still won the race and the championship.

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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TkHHR
I am sure that Toyota had hopes of being #1 in Nascar, but I doubt they wanted to be #1 in Cheating. They have to be banging their heads against the wall after the investment they made to get into the cup series with Michael Waltrip. Now even if they are successful this will be a black cloud for them for some time.

Then again Jimmie Johnson cheated last year at Daytona and he still won the race and the championship.

Your so right, but I hope you and everyone understand what I am trying to say, That the Sponsors do care, Sponsor Care about 3 thing
1. A Good Car
2. A Good driver
3. A Drivers good skills along w/luck


Sponsors do
not look to see who can cheat better then others
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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There is NO car out there that is 100% legal! I know I've been on both sides. I pushed the rules and got by several times and caught several times. I even had an official come up to me one night and want to know what I was using to soak my tires. I told him I wasn't. He laughed and asked again. I laughed and told him we were testing some stuff for a major company (sponser) He told me they nedded to work on it because a couple teams had softer tires than us. i told him but when you checked for it you didn't catch ours though. That next year 5 teams at the daytona 500 had it on their tires and didn't get caught. I was also an official for a short time. It's an old saying if you are not winning you are not cheating enough. Mixing alochol and silicone was a little blatant for even David Hyder (incredeble driver himself, 10 times better that Mikey ever thought about being).
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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I sent an email off to Toyota about the cheating incident and here is thier reply:


Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
We apologize for your concern regarding the No. 55 Michael Waltrip Racing Toyota Camry.

We are very disappointed and concerned in the events that have happened over the past few days. Toyota certainly does not condone actions such as these by any of our NASCAR team partners. These activities have been a distraction to our main goal, to compete in our first Daytona 500.

Toyota is committed to following the rules and regulations of NASCAR. We understand the importance of working closely with NASCAR, and following all the guidelines established for manufacturers and competitors.

Toyota is a company that was built on integrity, and that remains one of the guiding principles of the company. We want to compete, we want to win races and we want to challenge for championships -- all while following the rules.

Your feedback is appreciated.

If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us.

Toyota Customer Experience
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Tomdent1, has confirmed my statement, a "SPONSOR" told him his tires needed a little something to be competitive, sponsors only do so to get paid.
Toyota now knows about the cheating, not pulling out, just hopes it doesn`t taint the year as they sponsor their car in the championship challenge.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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what's the old adage..."it's only cheating if you get caught!"
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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I don`t know, do you tend to feel better about cheating and not getting caught, or relief with the knowledge you didn`t get caught...?
Keeping in mind that you believe there`s someone always watching from above. (I use the "YOU" in the general sense)
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Really I don't care who cheats, I won't be able to tell from my seats on Sunday anyway.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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BB go back and re read the part about an official told him to soak them better not a Sponsor!!!
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdent1
There is NO car out there that is 100% legal! I know I've been on both sides. I pushed the rules and got by several times and caught several times. I even had an official come up to me one night and want to know what I was using to soak my tires. I told him I wasn't. He laughed and asked again. I laughed and told him we were testing some stuff for a major company (sponser) He told me they nedded to work on it because a couple teams had softer tires than us. i told him but when you checked for it you didn't catch ours though. That next year 5 teams at the daytona 500 had it on their tires and didn't get caught. I was also an official for a short time. It's an old saying if you are not winning you are not cheating enough. Mixing alochol and silicone was a little blatant for even David Hyder (incredeble driver himself, 10 times better that Mikey ever thought about being).
I laughed and told him we were testing some stuff for a major company(sponsor)...

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