panel snafu?
#1
panel snafu?
I was driving I-40 west of Amarillo Tx. Trooper pulled me over for "driving on improved side road." He was behind me when I came upon a work convoy stopped in the fast lane. I slowed down and slipped right side tires onto shoulder to pass the convoy. Most states, thats what you are supposed to do. During our discussion, he said he appreciated what I did, that's why he was only giving me a warning. What? I got a warning for doing what I should do. Uh.....so I stopped at Oklahoma info center and told them the story. Since I was driving a panel, info person said all panels, vans, etc., are stopped for being possible drug runners. Never thought that might happen to a Santa in a red panel minding his own business doing the speed limit. Kinda makes me want to skip Texas in the future.
#3
You got a BS story from the OK Info center. Remember those people are volunteers and have very little training. Besides what would a VOLUNTEER in OK know about enforcement policies in TX.
And the Appellate Federal Courts have ruled that stopping ALL panels, vans, SUV's, etc. because "they MAY be carrying contraband" will not pass probable cause and is in violation of our Constitution. Although the Texas LEO probably used your driving violation as the PC for the stop.
Most states, within some restrictions, have a law prohibiting the use of shoulders as a passing or traveling lane.
And the Appellate Federal Courts have ruled that stopping ALL panels, vans, SUV's, etc. because "they MAY be carrying contraband" will not pass probable cause and is in violation of our Constitution. Although the Texas LEO probably used your driving violation as the PC for the stop.
Most states, within some restrictions, have a law prohibiting the use of shoulders as a passing or traveling lane.
#5
Annoy law enforcement and exercise your constitutional rights.
1) "I choose to remain silent" "You have the right to remain silent"
2) "I do not consent to searches" "You have the right to demand a search warrant"
3) "Am I free to go?" "Right after we go downtown and answer a few questions"
2010 HHR PANEL LS 2.2L
1) "I choose to remain silent" "You have the right to remain silent"
2) "I do not consent to searches" "You have the right to demand a search warrant"
3) "Am I free to go?" "Right after we go downtown and answer a few questions"
2010 HHR PANEL LS 2.2L
#6
No front plate, passing on the right if your tires touch the dirt (as you did), defective tailight, defective license plate light, dark tinted front windows, loud exhaust, headlights out of adjustment, lowered below limit, rolling through a stop, driving too slowly, etc
These are all LEGITIMATE reasons to be cited, and are all used here in CA to pull folks over. If you don't have something else going on, most of these get you just a warning or a fix-it-ticket, but, if they find something else good for them. In other words if you give them an excuse they will use it for any reason they care to.
These are all LEGITIMATE reasons to be cited, and are all used here in CA to pull folks over. If you don't have something else going on, most of these get you just a warning or a fix-it-ticket, but, if they find something else good for them. In other words if you give them an excuse they will use it for any reason they care to.
Last edited by c2vette; 09-19-2010 at 04:50 PM.
#8
I have a Black Panel, with custom wheels, lowered, 7" Pioneer touch screen head unit, 9" headrest monitors that can be seen playing at night, (Can't see them on at all during the day, from the outside) I play movies, cartoons even the 3 stooges while driving around with the music Loud and cops have been behind me and along side of me, and I havent been pulled over.
On a Friday night at around 3AM (went for a Coffee)
I had a cop pull out behind me from a light, follow me for several blocks, then he changed lanes and lit up his cherries pulling over someone in a White car that looked stock. I think he was Enjoying watching the 3 stooges movies on DVD behind me.
I havent been bothered at all, and my panels front and only windows came Darkly Tinted. I even have an OZZY sticker on my back window.
On a Friday night at around 3AM (went for a Coffee)
I had a cop pull out behind me from a light, follow me for several blocks, then he changed lanes and lit up his cherries pulling over someone in a White car that looked stock. I think he was Enjoying watching the 3 stooges movies on DVD behind me.
I havent been bothered at all, and my panels front and only windows came Darkly Tinted. I even have an OZZY sticker on my back window.
#9
#10
I have a Black Panel, with custom wheels, lowered, 7" Pioneer touch screen head unit, 9" headrest monitors that can be seen playing at night, (Can't see them on at all during the day, from the outside) I play movies, cartoons even the 3 stooges while driving around with the music Loud and cops have been behind me and along side of me, and I havent been pulled over.
On a Friday night at around 3AM (went for a Coffee)
I had a cop pull out behind me from a light, follow me for several blocks, then he changed lanes and lit up his cherries pulling over someone in a White car that looked stock. I think he was Enjoying watching the 3 stooges movies on DVD behind me.
I havent been bothered at all, and my panels front and only windows came Darkly Tinted. I even have an OZZY sticker on my back window.
On a Friday night at around 3AM (went for a Coffee)
I had a cop pull out behind me from a light, follow me for several blocks, then he changed lanes and lit up his cherries pulling over someone in a White car that looked stock. I think he was Enjoying watching the 3 stooges movies on DVD behind me.
I havent been bothered at all, and my panels front and only windows came Darkly Tinted. I even have an OZZY sticker on my back window.
Might get my door glass tinted when I get back from Mexico.