Why and Where???
09-17-2010, 09:00 AM
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Why and Where???
Some things I hate to think about in my old age:
Where have all the mid-sized /full sized coups gone? No impala, monte carlo, malibu, etc. Why?
Why does GM insist on putting the SS badge on everything it has in the chevy line except the aveo? Next we will have an SS motorcycle!
Why does putting tthe SS badge on a car raise its price by 20--50%?
How does GM go from a 22K camaro to a 38K camaro by just calling it an SS and dropping a V8 under the hood?
How does GM justify the Cruze at a 19--23K range when the car it replaced had a 12--15K range----and where the hec is the coup!!
I am an old "geezer" who bought an HHR because it was the sportiest 4 door I could find! It is a great vehicle but alas---I yearn for the days of old----when every car had 4 or 2 doors AND you could special order anything w/o having "packages" shoved down your throat!
These are just some of the problems in life I cannot seem to solve! I guess old-age does that to us!
Peace to you all!
Where have all the mid-sized /full sized coups gone? No impala, monte carlo, malibu, etc. Why?
Why does GM insist on putting the SS badge on everything it has in the chevy line except the aveo? Next we will have an SS motorcycle!
Why does putting tthe SS badge on a car raise its price by 20--50%?
How does GM go from a 22K camaro to a 38K camaro by just calling it an SS and dropping a V8 under the hood?
How does GM justify the Cruze at a 19--23K range when the car it replaced had a 12--15K range----and where the hec is the coup!!
I am an old "geezer" who bought an HHR because it was the sportiest 4 door I could find! It is a great vehicle but alas---I yearn for the days of old----when every car had 4 or 2 doors AND you could special order anything w/o having "packages" shoved down your throat!
These are just some of the problems in life I cannot seem to solve! I guess old-age does that to us!
Peace to you all!
09-17-2010, 11:53 AM
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Where have all the mid-sized /full sized coups gone? No impala, monte carlo, malibu, etc. Why?
Why does GM insist on putting the SS badge on everything it has in the chevy line except the aveo? Next we will have an SS motorcycle!
Why does putting tthe SS badge on a car raise its price by 20--50%?
How does GM go from a 22K camaro to a 38K camaro by just calling it an SS and dropping a V8 under the hood?
How does GM go from a 22K camaro to a 38K camaro by just calling it an SS and dropping a V8 under the hood?
High performance, turbo-charged, direct-injection engine producing 130 hp/L;
Better suspension and handling;
Fancy electronics for features like launch control;
LImited slip diff;
etc, etc
THat stuff ain't free!!
You think the performance model should be the same price as the base model?
I wish too!!Here's something interesting from your days.....
http://www.firstgencamaro.com/zl1.html
Performance had its price - $4,160us for the ZL1 engine alone pushing the price of the Camaro ZL1 to an unbelieveable $7,200 (about double the price of a SS Super Sport 396cid
Camaro).
Performance had its price - $4,160us for the ZL1 engine alone pushing the price of the Camaro ZL1 to an unbelieveable $7,200 (about double the price of a SS Super Sport 396cid
Camaro).
How does GM justify the Cruze at a 19--23K range when the car it replaced had a 12--15K range----and where the hec is the coup!!
I am an old "geezer" who bought an HHR because it was the sportiest 4 door I could find!
...you could special order anything w/o having "packages" shoved down your throat!
09-17-2010, 12:09 PM
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Sporty can mean a lot of things to a lot of different people. If I was looking for a "sporty" 4 door, I'd have to consider:
WRX
used Mazdaspeed6
Mazdaspeed3
TSX (to an extent)
GLI Jetta
SRT4 (Neon or Calibur)
Sentra SE-R spec V
Maxima?
used TL?
Depends on if you want new, used, price range...and what you consider sporty. JMO
WRX
used Mazdaspeed6
Mazdaspeed3
TSX (to an extent)
GLI Jetta
SRT4 (Neon or Calibur)
Sentra SE-R spec V
Maxima?
used TL?
Depends on if you want new, used, price range...and what you consider sporty. JMO
09-17-2010, 01:13 PM
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The Cobalt was a marginally competative car that they could only sell by massively discounting it (SS excepted as it was a good car). The Cruze is class competative or class leading in handling, ride, noise, interior quality etc. That means they can ask for (and will get) more money for the car.
09-17-2010, 03:30 PM
#7
And you think people didn't have many choices?
"Inside the 1957 Chevrolet was all new. Twenty three new seat and door trim color combinations,"
"Solid Colors For The 1957 Chevrolets
* Onyx Black
* Inca Silver
* Imperial Ivory
* Matador Red
* Harbor Blue
* Larkspur Blue
* Tropical Turquoise
* Surf Green
* Highland Green
* Colonial Cream
* Coronado Yellow
* Canyon Coral
* Sierra Gold
* Adobe Beige
* Dusk Pearl
* Laurel Green
1957 Chevrolet Two-Tone Combinations
* Onyx Black / India Ivory
* Imperial Ivory / Inca Silver
* Larkspur Blue / Harbor Blue
* India Ivory / Larkspur Blue
* India Ivory / Twilight Turquoise
* Surf Green / Highland Green
* India Ivory / Surf Green
* India Ivory / Coronado Yellow
# Onyx Black / Colonial Cream
# India Ivory / Colonial Cream
# India Ivory / Canyon Coral
# Adobe Beige / Sierra Gold
# India Ivory / Matador Red
# Colonial Cream / Laurel Green
# Imperial Ivory / Dusk Pearl"
No...not much to pick from....
09-17-2010, 06:29 PM
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I think he's talking about the Cobalt...since they still make the Aveo. The Cruze replaces the Cobalt.
And you think people didn't have many choices?
09-17-2010, 07:23 PM
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Had an '84 T-Bird Turbo with a 2.3. Ran great (small amount of oil leaked past the valves after a long run and you started it the next day there was minor smoke) but the car lasted 192,000 with the original turbo & motor although went through some clutches... Ran 50's as tires and when I launched the rear there was tire hop (quad shocks in rear) the back window would break it's seal from the body of the car. Lucky for me silicon was cheap and the rear window had a metal frame holding it down from flying off. Wasn't a bad car and fun to drive.