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204,000= p0016
Well, I hit 204,000. on my 08 ss and it gave me a gift! It’s no throwing the dreaded P0016. I reset the engine light while driving, and it comes on again after it shuts off and is restarted. I monitor the timing while driving and it seems good. The car still seems to run great and I’m still getting about 30mpg at 80mph. I picked up this car used at 140k, I did check and it does have the new style tensioner. I guess I need to take the valve cover off and check the chain. Is there a way to electronically check the sensors? Does anyone know of a mechanic in the San Diego area, that likes to work on these? I don’t know if this post is where it belongs. thanks for your help in advance! |
Welcome. It's been moved to the SS Specific Service Issues/Repairs, rather than the Performance thread.
Your other post in the classifieds asking for a mechanic has been deleted as you are already asking the same thing here (double posting). You are pointed in the right direction already to suspect the timing chain, and or guides/tensioners. The OBDII system pretty much does all the checking needed for the sensors etc.. That's pretty high mileage, so the chains etc. are definitely suspect. Now lets see if any knows of a mechanic in the San Diego area. |
For your engine's (and your wallet's) sake, please do not try to start the engine again!
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Welcome to the site, hopefully a member here from your area will chime in.
X2 on the Do Not attempt to start the SS, a broken chain or guide could destroy the engine. |
Haha, it’s been like this for 5k miles. Thanks guys. Should spend the money on the chain, or get a new replacement engine from eBay? |
Consider yourself very lucky - you've been driving it like that for 5K miles!!!! You might as well just wait till it grenades, then get a whole new engine since it isn't a priority for you, and the engine has a lot of miles on it already.
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New engine! It’s probably out by one tooth or link but that is high mileage!
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Mine ate itself because of timing chain stretch at 142K. Jumped 2 teeth and grenaded at highway speed. Hole in the oil pan and everything.
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Thanks, all!
I found a mechanic here locally. He works at GM and is allowed to bring his own cars into work on them. Mine car went in and the chains are indeed stretched. All appear to be original, guess I got lucky so far. I’m going to provide parts to him and he’ll do the work. Does anyone have any experience with theses $99.00 kits on eBay? I would like to know you thoughts. Hopefully she’ll make it until next week sometime when all the parts are here. thnanks guys! (People) I would want to often any CNN viewers. |
They seem to be as good as any - just make sure the guides/tensioners are included, and that it is for the 2.0L turbo engine. At that mileage you might want to consider replacing the water pump and balance chains at the same time.
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Thanks I am, but those water pumps look pretty cheep. |
Cloyes 9-4201SX for the timing chain 9-4202S for the balance shaft chain
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I went the total cheap route and bought the eBay kit $59.00. They ship not far from me and should be here Tuesday. We’re going to take a look the before installing, it’s says they have sold 1200+ (hopefully not to the same guy). I did do something a little off and bought the SAAB water pump. It said genuine SAAB, has the same GM part number and the casting on the body reads GM. It was only $80.00 complete with sprocket and back plate. $213.00 was net cost on the dealer pump, it looks exact. I’ll compare everything, I can and try to apply some type of rating to them. If the chains don’t look right I won’t use them. So far I’m into all the parts for $240.00 and that includes the $12 actuators.... fingers crossed. Hope she hold out until Wednesday night, it’s about 300 more miles. |
Even my cheap Evergreen kit , I bought as a spare for $35.00, had GM numbers on the chains and sprockets and guides, so you should be ok.
The cam sprockets won’t be the same for your VVT sprockets |
You're playing with fire now, or ax body spray.
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Saab was a GM brand, before they gutted it.
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Saab developed the Ecotec after they bought it off Aston Martin, then GM scooped them up.
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In fact the crank has the SAAB name on it
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And the 5 speed inspection cover in the SS has Saab on it.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...5a7e3a35ba.jpg |
The Manual trans is a Saab unit. Period. GM had no other manual that could handle this application.
I hope your chains themselves are OEM-level. That would be highest priority. Glad you caught it, and got some help to do the work. Best of luck! I miss mine terribly... |
Well, it finally made it to the shop ( GM mechanics house). He looked over all the parts, the SAAB water pump was the same. He said the tensioners looked the same and chains look good or similar. He though the guides looked like they were constructed a little different. We made the decision to give them a try. FYI, my car has 204k with the original timing set, the tensioner was all the way out and the chain had lots of slack. The car still seemed to run fine with a few exceptions. The turbo has had some erratic tendencies and a P0016 light. Hopefully the repairs last another 100k. I would be very satisfied with that. |
Was the chain off a tooth?
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Got the car back today! The culprit was the upper guide broke at the bolt that fastens it to the block. I haven’t seen the bolt, but according to the mechanic it hadn’t start to wear the head yet. Anyway the car does run much better and seems to idle a lot better. Also the turbo doesn’t drop of unexpectedly, it’s all nice and smooth again....hopefully I can get another 100k out o this car! Thanks for all of your help! |
;) yeah! It’s alive again! This problem is why the bolt needs to be replaced by one of these, even Dorman carries them
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...1c7a7e49c3.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...ced62bc4ee.jpg |
I don’t know if it got one of those, he used a new bolt brought home from work. Is that something special? |
Yes, the GM bolt tends to snap off and the guide gets chewed up
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...abe702e995.jpg |
My guides looked a lot like that, too.
OP, it sounds like super news for you. Very happy for you! |
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