How long will the SS tires last?
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Joined: 04-12-2008
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From: Cedarburg, WI
I have rotated mine twice already also, and have over 19K on them. I'll measure the tread depth tonite and post results, but I believe they have at least half the tread depth left. I do a lot of highway driving obviously, but I do my share of tire spinnin' also!
When you rotate the tires you teach the TPM system the new tire location on the car with a sequence that is spelled out in the owners manual. By pressing the both the lock & unlock butons on the keyfob at once it starts the process, and ea. blinker will come on for a couple minutes to let you know which corner of the car to let some air out of that particular tire. It is pretty cool!
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Joined: 06-27-2008
Posts: 276
From: Arlington, Texas
<snip> When you rotate the tires you teach the TPM system the new tire location on the car with a sequence that is spelled out in the owners manual. By pressing the both the lock & unlock butons on the keyfob at once it starts the process, and ea. blinker will come on for a couple minutes to let you know which corner of the car to let some air out of that particular tire. It is pretty cool!
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TPMS Sensor Matching Process Each TPMS sensor has a unique identification code. Any time you replace one or more of the TPMS sensors or rotate the vehicle’s tires, the identification codes need to be matched to the new tire/wheel location. The sensors are matched, to the tire/wheel locations, in the following order: driver side front tire, passenger side front tire, passenger side rear tire, and driver side rear tire using a TPMS diagnostic tool. See your dealer/retailer for service. The TPMS sensors can also be matched to each tire/wheel position by increasing or decreasing the tire’s air pressure. When increasing the tire’s pressure, do not exceed the maximum inflation pressure indicated on the tire’s sidewall. To decrease the tire’s air-pressure use the pointed end of the valve cap, a pencil-style air pressure gage, or a key. You have two minutes to match each tire and wheel position. If it takes longer than two minutes to match any tire and wheel position, the matching process stops and you need to start over. The TPMS matching process is outlined below: 1. Set the parking brake. 2. Turn the ignition switch to ON/RUN with the engine off. 3. Press and hold the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) transmitter’s LOCK and UNLOCK buttons, at the same time, for about five seconds to start the TPMS learn mode. The horn sounds twice indicating the TPMS receiver is ready and in learn mode. 4. Start with the driver side front tire. The driver side front turn signal also comes on to indicate that corner’s sensor is ready to be learned. 5. Remove the valve cap from the tire’s valve stem. Activate the TPMS sensor by increasing or decreasing the tire’s air pressure for about eight seconds. The horn chirp, can take up to 30 seconds to sound. It chirps one time and then all the turn signals flash one time to confirm the sensor identification code has been matched to the tire/wheel position. 6. The passenger side front turn signal comes on to indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned. Proceed to the passenger side front tire and repeat the procedure in Step 5. 7. The passenger side rear turn signal comes on to indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned. Proceed to the passenger side rear tire and repeat the procedure in Step 5. 8. The driver side rear turn signal comes on to indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned. Proceed to the driver side rear tire, and repeat the procedure in Step 5. 9. After hearing the single horn chirp for the driver side rear tire, two additional horn chirps sound to indicate the tire learning process is done. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK/OFF. If no tires are learned after entering the TPMS learn mode, or if communication with the receiver stops, or if the time limit has expired, turn the ignition switch to LOCK/OFF and start over beginning with Step 2. 10. Set all four tires to the recommended air pressure level as indicated on the Tire and Loading Information label. 11. Put the valve caps back on the valve stems.
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Joined: 11-23-2007
Posts: 8,210
From: Texas
Customers come in weekly after the big tire discounters do their tire rotation asking why their light/message is on. I do it for free the first time, but eventually we will start charging for this.
But if we rotate or replace the tires we reset them as part of the service at no additional charge.
And as far as GM is concerned on all tires that they use, no matter what brand, they are 36,000 mile tires.
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Joined: 07-05-2008
Posts: 5,464
From: Akron Ohio
One other thing to consider is OE tires are not always the best tires.
Auto MFG like to get the best tire at the cheapest price so many times the tires are a comprimise of performance vs cost.
In some cases tiire companies may give GM a break to appear on some vehicles like the Vette and offer cover the development cost to be featured.
Goodyear for years like to be a OE MFG not because they made money but it put the Eagles out in the public eye. The bad part is the OE Eagles were not the best perfornace tires Goodyear offered. The GT and GA were cheap perfromance tires that were just not up to par with other after market offerings.
Goodyear hit some finacial problems and has gotten out of many of the OE deals as they are not profitable in many cases. Also the CEO was not happy with the poorer tires they were making. Over the last two years they have been slowly killing off many of the poor quality tires and making new lines of much better quality to replace them. Their profits have gone up and things are now turning around.
The the Pilots on out HHR is a better than average OE tire. We are lucky they used a better tire. Now the Firestone on the LT lines are just what they are round, black and cheap. GM pays little for these and we do not get the best tires that could be offered.
Other factors fall into place as in drive by sound standards and ride factors on top of milage and handling requirments. Some of these comprimise tire perfromance the non OE tires do not have to meet.
This is just a little of what goes into tires for the MFGs. Living here in Akron and having family and friends who work at several of the different tire companies over the years you see and learn a lot from them.
Either way the best we can hope for is 25-30K miles with the way most of us drive. Highway miles will add some life. Sharp off ramp curves and burn outs will decrease them accordingly.
A good example of tire ware is the Comp TA radial that came on my GTP Comp G. They were good for 25K miles with the wife driving 80% of the time. We have since put on a set of Goodyear Assurance Triple treads that have perfromed well in all weather and now have going on 40K miles with another 15K of tread left. The OE vs the non OE Assurance is apparent in this case and I have seen it in other brands and cars over the years.
Keep em aired up, rotate them and remember hard driving will lessen their life. When it is time to replace them the after market will offer better tires and not all but many times you get what you pay for.
FYI if you want cheap Goodyear tires buy Dunlop.They are owned and MFG by Goodyear and in most cases are as good but at a cheaper price. Other MFG's own private labels too and offer good deals if you know what to look for.
Auto MFG like to get the best tire at the cheapest price so many times the tires are a comprimise of performance vs cost.
In some cases tiire companies may give GM a break to appear on some vehicles like the Vette and offer cover the development cost to be featured.
Goodyear for years like to be a OE MFG not because they made money but it put the Eagles out in the public eye. The bad part is the OE Eagles were not the best perfornace tires Goodyear offered. The GT and GA were cheap perfromance tires that were just not up to par with other after market offerings.
Goodyear hit some finacial problems and has gotten out of many of the OE deals as they are not profitable in many cases. Also the CEO was not happy with the poorer tires they were making. Over the last two years they have been slowly killing off many of the poor quality tires and making new lines of much better quality to replace them. Their profits have gone up and things are now turning around.
The the Pilots on out HHR is a better than average OE tire. We are lucky they used a better tire. Now the Firestone on the LT lines are just what they are round, black and cheap. GM pays little for these and we do not get the best tires that could be offered.
Other factors fall into place as in drive by sound standards and ride factors on top of milage and handling requirments. Some of these comprimise tire perfromance the non OE tires do not have to meet.
This is just a little of what goes into tires for the MFGs. Living here in Akron and having family and friends who work at several of the different tire companies over the years you see and learn a lot from them.
Either way the best we can hope for is 25-30K miles with the way most of us drive. Highway miles will add some life. Sharp off ramp curves and burn outs will decrease them accordingly.
A good example of tire ware is the Comp TA radial that came on my GTP Comp G. They were good for 25K miles with the wife driving 80% of the time. We have since put on a set of Goodyear Assurance Triple treads that have perfromed well in all weather and now have going on 40K miles with another 15K of tread left. The OE vs the non OE Assurance is apparent in this case and I have seen it in other brands and cars over the years.
Keep em aired up, rotate them and remember hard driving will lessen their life. When it is time to replace them the after market will offer better tires and not all but many times you get what you pay for.
FYI if you want cheap Goodyear tires buy Dunlop.They are owned and MFG by Goodyear and in most cases are as good but at a cheaper price. Other MFG's own private labels too and offer good deals if you know what to look for.
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Joined: 11-27-2007
Posts: 1,115
From: Austin, Texas
Interesting. I drive pretty hard, often spin up the tires in 2nd, drive twisty roads on commute, rotate every 5,000. I have 27,000, not down to the wear bars (getting new tires for trip though) I am sure I could go to 32,000 if I had to. So your number seems right on for more "restrained driving". (Just realized in a post back when I was at 8,000 miles I projected would replace tires at 25,000, pretty dang close if I do say so)
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Joined: 08-18-2007
Posts: 602
From: Warrington PA
over 28000miles
on vaca up here in Maine, will be over 29000 miles by the time we get home tomorrow night. Although I do not like these tires that much, they have provided good wear for me, for the mileage they are not even 1/2 way worned down, I should get over 50,000 miles out of them no problem. And I hardly ever rotate tires, in fact, these have never been rotated. Not saying that is the right thing to do, but it works for me. I am a big fan of correct tire pressure though, and check them every week or two. But the next set I purchased will be more performanced oriented...........