Torque Thrust Wheels
 

hey all, my first post here. I have a 2008ls and have searched and keep hearing that they dont make torque thrusts for our HHR's. will these from ebay not fit? I keep reading that they must be custom drilled. ad says these fit.

16 16x7 American Racing Torq Thrust M 5x110 35mm Black Wheels Rims | eBay

Item specifics
Condition: New Manufacturer Part Number: AR105M6752B
Size: 16x7 Surface Finish: Black
Rim Width: 7 Warranty: Yes
Bolt Pattern: 5x110 Brand: American Racing
Offset: +35mm Style: Torq Thrust M
Backspacing: 5.5" Rim Diameter: 16
Finish: Black

thanks

Welcome to the site!! Nice find theses are very cool rims

the specs claim they will fit, now our buggy's have a 42 mm offset and a thinner 6.5 inch width but they do claim they will fit and advise how they determine that fitment.
Also they warn you will need different than stock " custom lug nuts " another $30.00 plus shipping

so as Ceasar once said Cavet Emptor or something close to it, maybe buyer beware!

They looked beautiful , & They will fit fine...:twothumbs:



Liar, liar, pants on fire...:lol:
Not really, as you will find an offset range of 35-42, listed for most stock HHR wheels...:smile:
Pilot/Wheel ALY05247U20N at AutoZone.com
Pilot/Wheel ALY06584U88 at AutoZone.com

but the stock rims are 42mm offset, so why call me a liar???

I guess that you didn't click on those two links in my last post...:wink:
Just saying, that you will find stock HHR wheels listed, anywhere from, 35-42 offset...:D
The OP wanted to know if those wheels would fit, & yes, they will fit fine...:twothumbs:

nor did you read this from back in May2006, posted by SoCalHHR

The standard offset is 42mm on the HHR's stock wheels.

An offset of LESS than 42mm will stick OUT more.

An offset of MORE than 42mm will tuck INSIDE the wheelwells more.

and knowing that the after market makes claims then does not back up these claims, I gave the correct answer, to avoid misleading the OP to order rims that could possibly fit or could possibly not fit, causing tire damage, suspension damage, out of pocket expense for shipping and handling and most of these company's will not accept a return once the rim has a tire mounted to it.

now that ive started WW3 LOL the consensus is these wheels will fit, but they will stick further out than stock? I was going to stay with the 16's because my current tires are like new, would the 17's they sell fit better?

Item specifics
Condition: New Manufacturer Part Number: AR105M77552B
Size: 17x7.5 Surface Finish: Black
Rim Width: 7.5 Warranty: Yes
Bolt Pattern: 5x110 Brand: American Racing
Offset: +45mm Style: Torq Thrust M
Backspacing: 6" Rim Diameter: 17
Finish: Black

dont mind the wheels sticking out further because of wider tires, just not because the offset is not correct.

Torque thrust Ms
 

Helped a member get a set of torque thrusts re-drilled a while back (probably didn't offer them when he needed them) here's what he posted as specs:
All I know is he got his wheels and I got a watch (he's located in Switzerland & in the watch bizz (go figure) & offered a watch of choice to who ever hooked him up to a company that could do the job). He posted a while later, I asked about the wheels, said they were fine

no WW3 here , just facts, the 17's with 7.5 inch width and 45 MM offset MIGHT fit also, I just think it would be best that you measure three time fit and spend once!
3MM is much closer than 7MM to the factory spec of 42MM.
now that being said, there are multiple members who have had to use spacers , change wheel studs, and other things to get their wheels and tires to fit and not rub the struts or the inner fenders. But that's another can of worms to fish with.

I agree about double ching, the company selling them says either set fits fine, and to call them or AR directly if I have any questions.

That is a nice looking wheel. I'm hanging out here in the hopes zapshd buys them and posts his experience with fitment. If all goes well, I'm going to find a set of these for my 09.

There you go, and personally I love the 16X7's they look more period correct for the vintage HHR body style.
We do have a cool tool up in the tool bar click on tools then click on tire rim calculator and get a tire size idea.

tire pressure sensors
 

thanks guys, while i have your ears, what are they gonna charge me to reinstall my tps sensors in the wheels, 2 of them are brand new.

You have no worrys , as they will fit fine...:twothumbs:

Yes, this also verifies that the OPs wheel will be a perfect fit..:twothumbs:

Whatever they can get. Most places around me want $15 each. If you mean the wheels are new you could go buy new stems (they are special) then pop them into the wheels. Then all that's left is to unscrew The old sensors and screw it onto the new stem.

They will be fine. The 12.5mm(1/2") rim width change is split between inner and outer width, so the 7 mm offset difference makes them REAL close.

Use a calculator if you don't believe me, but if you want 'em, no need to fret.

Ahh , no...:skull1:
The OP is starting with a 6.5" wheel, with a 42mm offset...
It's almost all shifted to the outside...:twothumbs:
Going from a stock 6.5" wheel with a 42mm offset, to a 7" wheel with a
35mm offset, will shift at least a 1/2" to the outside...:twothumbs:
They are still a good fit...:twothumbs:

The problem is you cannot rely on quoted measurements, the only way to be sure is a test fitting or a wide margin for error. My current wheels are 16x7 with 38mm offset and wouldn't fit. The shop that did the mounting and installation didn't even give them a spin to check for rubbing. I drove out with a horrible grinding and found the wheels were dragging on the front calipers. A quick trip to the store for two 1/8" spacers solved it.
In this case I would go for the 17s due to the extra backspacing to clear the brake calipers.

Finally my point has been backed up thank you Prod.
See them, feel them , test fit them , then buy them!

Hmm, sounds sexy...:D

A Member's ride ...

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Sweet
Now that is sexy...:twothumbs:

Very sexy but , that is the HHR with the redrilled Mustang rim's he had some machine work done to the back of the centre hub of the wheels and I believe he required spacers so they would clear the front calipers, so not a simple bolt on read the insert in post #8 from JerseyJames about Romeo~Rocks he even mentions centric rings

Romeo Rocks ride
 

Yeah,at the time was not a bolt on. Had this done in 3-13-2013. factory probably didn't offer the wheels with HHR pattern at that time. not Mustang bullet - but this - American Racing Torq Thrust M. He had the backs of the wheels machined to that back spacing, along with the redrilled bolt pattern. The centric rings may be a European thing? (he's in Switzerland). Looked back at some of his posts & the bullet wheels were discussed, but he got the Torq Thrusts at the specs in post #8, this thread.
Moot point as at Amazon, says wheels fits a 2008 HHR ... & at that price may get a set myself! :D
That being said, ask vendor (if you can) about what if rims don't fit and get it IN WRITING. as they say "caveat emptor" - let the buyer deware

p.s. don't forget to check on lug nuts, do you need different ones to run this rim?

After reading about Prods experience way back when I got the same wheels AND spacers and have had no issues:twothumbs:

AR shows many choices for the HHR

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sx_as?qi...4--5-------1-1

Offset & backspacing have nothing to do with rotor clearance, & everything to
do with where the wheel sits, [inside/outside], clearances.

The wheel spoke design, has everything to do about rotor clearances.
You needed spacers because of the thick Cadillac spoke design...:twothumbs:
Those Cadillac wheels are heavy *****es, costing you fuel mileage , & horsepower.

You're right, just looked it up. I had thought backspacing measured to the spokes, but in fact it measures to the mounting surface. Kinda silly as the offset combined with rim width makes it somewhat redundant.
Ya the caddy rims are thick spokes flat on the back, not very common thankfully. Very heavy for 16, but very solid and I believe made in germany.

I like what Japanese technology has done with wheels, lightweight & very strong.
http://www.mynismo.com/images/mat.pdf
My wife has a small digital kitchen scale, 0-10 lb range.
My Enkei wheels all weigh in at just a hair under 9.5lbs...:twothumbs:
I use them all year round, on my DD, & haven't had any issues, after 3 years, even after hitting winter potholes. I still find it hard to believe that aluminum wheels, can be made so light & strong...:bow:

part 2 of torque thrust question
 

ok guys, thought my tires were in better shape so was going to tranfer them over to the 16" torque thrusts, but checked manufacture dates on tire and they are 2009, so anyway gonna go with the 17" torque thrusts now, lots of info when i searched tire sizes but nothing in stone. whats the best size. dont want a lower overall tire size, want wider. will a 245/45/17 fit ? keep in mind the wheel is 7.5" wide and offset is 45MM

thanks again

According to the tire rim calculator tool in the toolbar, yes they will

"Best" for what? Maybe that's why you can't and won't find a definitive answer.
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For anyone thinking about those AR Torq Thrust "M" rims, the picture they show is NOT what a FWD +45 offset 5 x 110 rim will look like. There will be almost no lip that makes them look best..

Yes those re-drilled & machined Mustang rims look good. But that's a whole different set up..

Don't believe me ? google up AR Torq Thrust 17" 5 x 110... You will be disappointed (imo)..

I looked at these in person & rejected them because of this, otherwise they would have been on my Panel for a good while now..

They really don't have the attitude with almost no lip on the rim to speak of..

Nice ride what size wheels

well as an update, I bought the 17x7.5 torque thrusts, waiting on the new
tpms sensors, looking at continental extreme contact dws tires. thinking 235/45/17 which will fit no problem. not sure how much the 245/45/17's will stick out. don't want the rock chips, would like to go 235/50/17 (26.25) but that appears to be the max tire height, no one seems to know if they will fit for sure,

any ideas? and yes I searched. but no definite answers, at least not with this exact rim spacing.

and yes I agree that the picture that shows them with a larger lip than we will see on our application because of our offset doesn't look as good, its still a great looking wheel. that why I also own a 70 big block 454 el camino 15x12 rims on 295 drag radials.

zapshd- Do you have the new rims in your possession yet ?

According to American Racing (just recently), our offset on this "M" rim will still have a 1.2" lip.. That's not what I saw a good while back, but maybe they have improved the design ?

Pics would be nice to scope out..

PS: as to tire fitment, if you are still running stock struts, a very squared tire profile 'could' make a diff on how wide of rubber you can stuff under the front.

I currently have 26.1" tall (least when they were new) with 225/50/17, I had .300" clearance to my strut plate..

yes i have the rims, they look awesome, ill snap a pic when i can. theres at least 1 inch or more polished lip.

thanks for the pic, guess ill just run the 235/45's unless someone says the 245/45 fit well without sticking out too far

zapshd- Cool, would be great to see a pic..:thumb: I spoke to a vendor (Mike @ CARiD) & he tells me that the 17" 7.5" (5 x 110) "M" Torque Thrusts will NOT fit, he says they will hit the struts with the +45 offset, I don't know if that is true or not.

Also says they are totally unavailable from American Racing for at least a month or so. Sold out, since the new Dodge Dart uses the same bolt pattern.

Hopefully when you get 'fitted up' you can give an update as well. :twothumbs:

https://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/fil...14_474x640.jpg

https://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/fil...15_640x480.jpg

wow that was a learning curve finding out how to post pics, anyway spoke
to American racing directly, they said no problem wheel fits fine. spoke to ebay seller he said will fit no problem but to dry fit wheel (don't mount tire) to make sure, wheel fits fine, hard to see in second pic but inside of wheel lip has at least 1/2 or more clearance to strut, and will clear everything fine. still snowing here in NY but gonna mount tires real soon

hope this helps guys

Can't wait to see them on with tires! zapshd, you should check into Premium Membership. For around $10 a year (I think) it makes it a lot easier to post pics -cut n paste. and more privileges

zapshd- Rims look hot, & plenty of Lip !!! Thanks for posting the pics (so far).:twothumbs:.
Can't wait to see them on yer ride..

Is it me, or does that strut bolt look like a fat tire might be Very close to rubbing it ?
If so, nothing a cut off wheel couldn't remedy quickly. But 'could' be a bad surprise at the tire shop..


PS: X 2 on what 2manyvans posted..