HHR vs VW R32
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Joined: 06-26-2008
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From: Corona CA
Probably be a pretty good race for the SS once moving. They flat hook when launched at 5K
They handle extremely well and the interior is super nice. We still got a performance bargain with the SS but the R32 is a bad ass ride.
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From: A state of L N F Performance
R32's are nice, I was behind one on some twisties a while back and had to let off so I wouldn't get to close.
I would still take an 04 with a SC though, those things are sweet! Plus they sound amazing! You have to love how German cars sound.
I would still take an 04 with a SC though, those things are sweet! Plus they sound amazing! You have to love how German cars sound.
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From: CLEVELAND
And it's due.
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From: Lakenheath, UK
lol, fair enough. shall we compromise and say 8? most Volkswagen cars are pretty good deals for what you're getting...until you get something performance oriented. GTIs, GLIs, and R32s are way more expensive than they should be. i'm not knocking their performance (for anyone about to go up in arms), just the price you pay for that performance.
i mean, given the specs, i'm ASSUMING here (so no one go crazy about this, please) a GTI wouldn't seem to stand much of a chance against an SS, straight-line or through twisties, given the significant hp difference, and our monster torque at 2k rpms, that never goes away basically. and yet, i believe the GTI is a bit pricier than the SS, and as my friend and ex-coworker always tried holding over my head (as if i cared) was he has a 6-spd and factory HIDs. apparently those two things are enough for him to claim his GTI is a better car than my SS.
now, i know this thread is about the R32, but IIRC, the R32 isn't much faster than the GTI, and it's over $30K! i mean, the GTI is about 200lbs lighter than the SS, with a 60hp deficit. the R32 is about 250lbs heavier than the SS, a 10hp deficit, and starts at $32,999! the ONLY advantage the R32 has over us is AWD, and all taht really means is thanks to drivetrain loss, even less of that 250hp is going to make it to the ground, while most dyno tests so far have shown we make close to 250hp at the wheels already!
and yes, i went and referenced the VW website for these figures. btw, a GTI starts at $22,800 for a 6-spd manual 2-dr, but to be comparable to the SS, lets look at the 4-dr price, of $23,300, around a grand less than i paid for my SS. and lets not forget, i got quite a few options too.
i mean, given the specs, i'm ASSUMING here (so no one go crazy about this, please) a GTI wouldn't seem to stand much of a chance against an SS, straight-line or through twisties, given the significant hp difference, and our monster torque at 2k rpms, that never goes away basically. and yet, i believe the GTI is a bit pricier than the SS, and as my friend and ex-coworker always tried holding over my head (as if i cared) was he has a 6-spd and factory HIDs. apparently those two things are enough for him to claim his GTI is a better car than my SS.
now, i know this thread is about the R32, but IIRC, the R32 isn't much faster than the GTI, and it's over $30K! i mean, the GTI is about 200lbs lighter than the SS, with a 60hp deficit. the R32 is about 250lbs heavier than the SS, a 10hp deficit, and starts at $32,999! the ONLY advantage the R32 has over us is AWD, and all taht really means is thanks to drivetrain loss, even less of that 250hp is going to make it to the ground, while most dyno tests so far have shown we make close to 250hp at the wheels already!
and yes, i went and referenced the VW website for these figures. btw, a GTI starts at $22,800 for a 6-spd manual 2-dr, but to be comparable to the SS, lets look at the 4-dr price, of $23,300, around a grand less than i paid for my SS. and lets not forget, i got quite a few options too.
