Stage 1 kit can go in Automatic. Really????
11-02-2009, 02:39 PM
#1
New Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 10-25-2009
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 29
Stage 1 kit can go in Automatic. Really????
I've heard some guys on the forum say that the Stage 1 kit is okay in the SS Automatic Transmission, but I just saw an article saying that the AT can't handle the extra torque.
"But that drops to just 235 horsepower and 223 foot-pounds of torque when connected to the optional four-speed automatic transmission. Because GM has no automatic transmission capable of handling the torque of the higher-output version of this engine, HHRs equipped with the automatic had to be de-tuned to the lower horsepower, Lutz said.
The company decided that it would be too expensive and not worth the effort to beef up the automatic to handle the higher power level, he said. "
So now I'm worried about putting the Stage 1 in. I don't want to ruin my trany.
Any thoughts?
"But that drops to just 235 horsepower and 223 foot-pounds of torque when connected to the optional four-speed automatic transmission. Because GM has no automatic transmission capable of handling the torque of the higher-output version of this engine, HHRs equipped with the automatic had to be de-tuned to the lower horsepower, Lutz said.
The company decided that it would be too expensive and not worth the effort to beef up the automatic to handle the higher power level, he said. "
So now I'm worried about putting the Stage 1 in. I don't want to ruin my trany.
Any thoughts?
11-02-2009, 02:52 PM
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: 02-09-2009
Location: Downtown Saint Petersburg, Florida
Posts: 3,169
I've heard some guys on the forum say that the Stage 1 kit is okay in the SS Automatic Transmission, but I just saw an article saying that the AT can't handle the extra torque.
"But that drops to just 235 horsepower and 223 foot-pounds of torque when connected to the optional four-speed automatic transmission. Because GM has no automatic transmission capable of handling the torque of the higher-output version of this engine, HHRs equipped with the automatic had to be de-tuned to the lower horsepower, Lutz said.
The company decided that it would be too expensive and not worth the effort to beef up the automatic to handle the higher power level, he said. "
So now I'm worried about putting the Stage 1 in. I don't want to ruin my trany.
Any thoughts?
"But that drops to just 235 horsepower and 223 foot-pounds of torque when connected to the optional four-speed automatic transmission. Because GM has no automatic transmission capable of handling the torque of the higher-output version of this engine, HHRs equipped with the automatic had to be de-tuned to the lower horsepower, Lutz said.
The company decided that it would be too expensive and not worth the effort to beef up the automatic to handle the higher power level, he said. "
So now I'm worried about putting the Stage 1 in. I don't want to ruin my trany.
Any thoughts?
11-02-2009, 07:43 PM
#5
New Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 10-25-2009
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 29
What you guys are saying makes a lot of sense. I'm just curious then, if the AT can handle the HP and torque, why they GM purposefully a limited HP and torque on the stock SS model.
And although the Stage 1 kit doesn't void the warranty, is a blown trany a covered item?
I'm not trying to be a worrier, I'm just new to the car modification realm.
And although the Stage 1 kit doesn't void the warranty, is a blown trany a covered item?
I'm not trying to be a worrier, I'm just new to the car modification realm.
11-02-2009, 08:21 PM
#6
Founding Member
Join Date: 11-23-2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 8,210
11-02-2009, 10:33 PM
#7
New Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 10-25-2009
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 29
So while my warranty wouldn't cover any damaged caused to my trany by racing or taking my SS out to a test track and trying to beat the land speed record, the warranty would cover any damage caused by normal driving or any extreme situation like if I happen to blow the trany trying to pass a semi that doesn't see me next to him when he is moving into my lane.
11-03-2009, 01:05 AM
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: 07-29-2008
Location: Mass
Posts: 727
its been gone over before, the auto tranny has been beefed up a little, ie: hardened input shaft, but the differential is the same. if that grenades, it can wipe out the whole tranny
just look at the ssei's and such.
While the tranny can handle the stage kit under normal driving..
you abuse it...
you break it...
you pay for it
just look at the ssei's and such.
While the tranny can handle the stage kit under normal driving..
you abuse it...
you break it...
you pay for it
