tune installed!!! wow....
Since I've never tried one of these before I guess the only other question is what happens in the unlikely event I am not too happy with the difference and just go back to stock. I that case am I just out $1000? Do they offer a trial? If I go back to stock can this be sent back the them an unlocked so I could off it on ebay and recoup some of the cost? I can understand a license to use on one vehicle only but if it comes off the vehicle is it transferable to another as long as it is only used for one vehicle?
The reason I asked about the stock firmware is that once it is stored in the programmer can it be uploaded to my PC?? That would ensure the original GM code doesn't get lost. I hate not having a backup just in case. It would also allow to keep all the GM versions that have been on your car on your PC. That way if one of the newer GM 'Bug fixes' does something I don't like I can always go back. Keeping the options open is a good thing.
The BSR "sales channel" isn't really set up for this. They offer a "flash device," not a "tuner device," and their sales channel is to sell you the flashes (see their web site re "staged upgrades"). OTOH, the HPT unit is a computer interface to allow users to tweak parameters that the HPT is capable of manipulating. I spent $2800 on a new 4L60 transmission after "tweaking" pump pressure parms with TunerCat on my old '99 Tahoe. I have some knowledge of what I'm doing... but I still broke something. HPT won't protect you from "being dumb." The BSR will, since it's just a "you get what you get" flash. One isn't inherently better than the other... they're just different products.
Maybe dumb question here but since I'm computer illiterate,here goes.How does this upgrade tune know into which vehicle it's going?If you have(in this instance)an '08 HHR SS and it gets totalled(heaven forbid) then buy another one to replace it,why wouldn't it work?Or would it?seems to me it should work just fine,all vehicle specs being the same.
XXL,there is another module-the ECM.This is what controls the drive train.The BCM controls things like A/C and heat,the radio,mirror and seat settings,among others.So if this "tune" changes engine parameters it shouldn't be going into the BCM,it should be going intothe ECM.Right?
XXL,there is another module-the ECM.This is what controls the drive train.The BCM controls things like A/C and heat,the radio,mirror and seat settings,among others.So if this "tune" changes engine parameters it shouldn't be going into the BCM,it should be going intothe ECM.Right?
XXL,there is another module-the ECM.This is what controls the drive train.The BCM controls things like A/C and heat,the radio,mirror and seat settings,among others.So if this "tune" changes engine parameters it shouldn't be going into the BCM,it should be going intothe ECM.Right?
So an owner of an HHR SS couldn't give his "tune" stuff to another owner of an IDENTICALLY equpped car(say,for the sake of discussion,a 5 speed/L.S.D. car)?What,besides the V.I.N,could be the difference?Comfort options shouldn't make a difference in the engine(and/or trans) setup.As I see it,only a weight difference between vehicles could POSSIBLY make a difference.Am I completely wrong?Has anyone tried to plug in one these "tunes" from one HHR to another?What,if anything happened?Maybe it's just my suspicious side emerging but I wonder if this is just a way to sell more "tune" packages.
Maybe dumb question here but since I'm computer illiterate,here goes.How does this upgrade tune know into which vehicle it's going?If you have(in this instance)an '08 HHR SS and it gets totalled(heaven forbid) then buy another one to replace it,why wouldn't it work?Or would it?seems to me it should work just fine,all vehicle specs being the same.
According to Volume 1 (section 6) there are several different modules on the HHR and they all work together. Some seem very integrated and if one is replaced there is often work to configure or re-calibrate other modules. That part doesn't look fun.
From what I can read in the book it appears that the BCM controls the lighting, horn, turn signals, ignition switch, wipers door locks, and misc stuff for the body of the car. It doesn't seem to talk about the engine at all.
There is also listed an ECM (Engine Control Module) which looks to cover everything for the engine and accessories. It lists the A/C, tempature, Accelerator petal position, injector control, crank sensor, Fuel pump, emissions, camshaf angles, spark control, etc.
Besides that is also mentions CIM (Communications Interface Module) for the cell phone and OnStar.
Also a EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module), PSCM (Power Steering Control Module), and a few others.
On cars with a manual trans it states that if you replace an ECM then you have to re-learn the Clutch Petal position sensor. There is a lot of things like that so far. This books are really a requirement for someone to be able to properly maintain the HHR.


