I wonder if wax provides protection from the sun!!!

GM says there is 3 types of car finish enhancers....wax, polish, sealants.

Their tests, here in Arizona, of these types of products, revealed the need for continual application of wax products. I'm guessing this had something to do with the intense uv's that are usually experienced in this area, in the summer. As well as the intense heat (I remember tests conducted with different color vehicles in 115-118 ambient). Depending on the color, surface temperatures reached nearly 200F. Several of the darker colors required reapplication of the wax products, in a shorter period of time than other products tested, to afford the continuing "protection" and results that were initially acquired.

Specific polish products, with a second step wax product, provided the best shine. But for my selection, I'm to old to wax a vehicle every 60 days, so I try to use a polish/sealant product.

Understand, that this was about 5 years ago. Other products may have entered the market to provide improved results.

Besides, I believe most products on the market are silicones and synthetics, not (or very little) waxes.

How about a comment from the Zaino people....is this not a synthetic, polymer, acrylic, silicone or whatever??? And not a wax. I really do not know!!!

And in regard to GM..... this was an internal test. Not for publication to the public. So, they do not reveal results or name specific products. They just say you need to do this.......blah, blah, blah. Kind of like oil and gas. You need to change it, use this type meeting this spec. etc. etc. They seldom support another product and name the brand even though they believe it provides superior proformance (synthetic oil is a good example).

 

Thanks Deb...

I'll give that a try.

 

I found the Collinite wax on this web site that you can order from directly:

http://www.exceldetail.com/

 

I would steer clear of these body guys then..... Zaino can be removed with any commercial paint cleaner. I have had 2 of my cars into body shops and they knew exactly what to do. One had over 10 coats and was completely repainted and blended over 4 years ago and is still perfect.
Zaino can be removed using a combination of 50% Isopropyl Alcohol and 50% water.

As a Zaino distributor I was asked to be an expert witness. One of my customers was suing a painter over a fix that had really gone bad. The painter blamed Zaino, I was brought in to demonstrate its removal prior to painting and show my car that had been repainted and blended after an accident. My customer won hands down. The painter was absolutley clueless on how to properly prepare a surface to repaint and blending. I was shocked.....

 

Zaino is a polish/protectant. So it is a replacement for the wax/polish combination. You do not need to do anything else once you apply it.
It is a polymer and does not contain any silicone or abrasives. It has protection up to the UV 40 range.
Even in Arizona, you should see protection/beading of water for up to 6 months on an outdoor kept car and up to a year on a garage kept car with 3-4 coats.
Zaino likes to be put on in very, very thin layers. I tell my customers to put on 3 coats as an initial aplication. I also tell them if they are working up a sweat putting it on or taking it off, they are working WAY too hard at it.
The more layers, the better the shine, and the better the protection.
It should be applied by ahnd, simply becasue a buffer requires more effort to control and you use way too much product.

I am being very cautious and somewhat leary of answering the findings of the GM Tests. But in very simple terms, and I mean very simple, you can liken a carnuba to a candle, at high heat it has a tendency to melt, henceforth the need to keep reapplying. It is much more complicated than that, and ton of other factors play into the durability of each mfr's claims. But it does explain their findings.
I do represent Zaino in Northern California, and will answer any questions you have about those products or general detailing, but will not post opinions on other manufacturers products.
We all have different ideas on what looks good, and what makes our cars look good. Many prefer the warmer look of a carnuba and don't mind the spending the time to reapply. Some prefer the wet look of Zaino, others don't, others prefer it's durability. It can get very religious.

Multiple layers can also be a misnomer, if the polish/wax contains an abrasive. If your polish contains an abrasive(generally a calcified clay, that breaks down as you work it) your second coat is removing the first. So check the ingredients, or rub a little in your fingers, you will know pretty quickly if it has an abrasive in it, you will feel it, or it will leave a light powdery residue on your fingers.

You have to decide for yourself what is important to you and how you want your car to look. Don't let others decide for you
Make Sense?

 

I thought I would add a bit more here. In general polishes/waxes that contain silicone will give you a very high shine for a short time. Silicone will dissipate and the shine will disappear. Plus, it is a dust magnet and provides zero protection.
So if you are looking for a quick short high shine, the higher the silicon content the higher the shine.
Body guys really hate to deal with cars that have continuosly used a high silicone content polish/wax. It is not as bad today with the two stage base/clear coated paint, but with single stage it would get into the paint and make repaints/blending impossible. The paint would not stick, or would come up over time as the silicone worked itself out of the original base coat.

One company that freely admits to having silicone in it is ICE by Turtle Wax.
AS I said in the previous post, you have to decide what works best for your situation.

 

I use products found here: www.poorboys.com , the products can be put on and taken off in full sun with no problem and give a great shine. You really shouldn't use dish washing detergent to wash automotive surfaces unless you want to strip everything off your ride. A good quality auto soap works fine.

 

Are you sure about that website..it is dvds and cds????

 

Try www.detailcity.com , the product is by Poorboys. Sorry about that.

 

Anyone in W. New York area -- if you want Collinite, the Buffalo area CARQUEST stores carry it in stock, pretty much all of the time. If you need it, I probably will have it, it's a slow seller.