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Old 08-01-2006, 05:03 PM
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Elemental Designs 10" sub

ED has a new low profile 10"er only 3" deep. Anyone have one or know anything about it? I wonder if it would be an effective replacement for the 8" stocker?

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Old 08-04-2006, 07:17 AM
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im going to buy one to do some tests with other slim subs. there about 5-6 ompanys that have shollow mount subs but not all of them are any good and some of them are just to damn pricey.
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xtrme...where are my dual 10" slim subs? lol
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Originally Posted by JOEK86
ED has a new low profile 10"er only 3" deep. Anyone have one or know anything about it? I wonder if it would be an effective replacement for the 8" stocker?

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If you put a 10" in the stock location, you will lose the ability to put the package tray in the upper position. Also, putting a 10 in the stock sub spot won't net you any more bass - there is simply not enough enclosure volume to warrant a 10. To make more bass, you need more ROOM. There is no substitute for cubic feet.

Hope it helps,

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Originally Posted by HHR PNOY
xtrme...where are my dual 10" slim subs? lol
still working on it, im not happy with yet.
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalHHR
If you put a 10" in the stock location, you will lose the ability to put the package tray in the upper position. Also, putting a 10 in the stock sub spot won't net you any more bass - there is simply not enough enclosure volume to warrant a 10. To make more bass, you need more ROOM. There is no substitute for cubic feet.

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well said
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Yup, No substitute for cubes! Just like in the old days with high CU displacement v8's. Sometimes, ya just need more cubes!

I'm working on a rear deck up-firing lid with two JL 10's. It will require removing the little do-dad/tool compartment between the rear seat and the cargo area, but we need the room to place the 10's towards the rear seat backs so we can still have a lot of useful utility room without placing objects over the speakers. I routinely place two fifty pound water battles or more in the rear and a lot of other stuff too. I will have to move the cargo rug back when I want full bass. Perhaps they should be down firing?
Gotta have a cargo rug, stuff just moves around otherwise. I'll be reintroducing the cargo net to the car as well. I have been thinking of getting a second cargo rug to pull over the rear seats when they are down to stop all the cargo movement. Yes, we USE the car as it was designed, a family car with utility.

Still debating stereo VS mono on the subs. Yes, low frequencies are omni directional, but from past experience ( twenty years back ) the sonic crossover was always smoother with less strain on the main speakers in a stereo mode. Besides, if you want to hear Pink Floyd's "welcome To The Machine" Properly, you need stereo subs!

It made a difference in some previous cars, but as I say, I'm twenty years out of date with this stuff and working with a current pro, so He'll likely get me to go mono. Heck, I can always make it stereo later if it need to be.
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this is the first sub ill be testing against my sub. it is a pioneer Premier 12'' sub. i will be getting a ED sub soon and test it out also.
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