we are undoubtedly the largest JL dealer in the midwest and south, yet we hate the cleansweep with a passion. we use pac audio LOC's and Audio Control for the line driver and processors....much better combo

 

but do they go to 11?

 

?????

 

an audio guy that isnt a fan of Spinal Tap????


..........Eleven (11): Nigel’s key to keeping Tap among England’s loudest bands. In "This is Spinal Tap," he pointed out to director Marty DiBergi that the settings on Tap’s Marshall amps could extend beyond the standard 10 mark. Nigel: "You see, most blokes will be playing at 10. You’re on 10, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Eleven. One louder." DiBergi: "Why don’t you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?" Nigel (after taking a moment to let this sink in): "These go to 11." In 1990, Marshall released its JCM900 amp, with the knobs going to 20 (GW2), although Nigel says the company later gave him a special model that goes to infinity (complete with the infinity symbol—an eight on its side—and a dial that keeps spinning around as if it were broken). (EW) The company also makes faceplates for all of its amp models that go to 11. In a 1984 interview, Nigel revealed that his Gibson guitar pickups were modified to go to 11, as well—meaning that with both his amp and guitar turned all the way up, he could hit 22. (GP) A T-shirt that reads "Goes to 11" is now a collector’s item because it sold so poorly immediately after DiBergi’s film was released. Finally, a posting to the Internet group alt.fan.spinal-tap by Ray Abbitt shed some light on the history of powered amps: "Early Fender Champs (a small, low-powered amp, probably intended for practice) had no controls except for a volume control that went to 11. And from about 5 on up, they didn’t get any louder—just more distorted. A number of artists use them for recording and some (including Neil Young) use them for live performances. Most of us who are lucky enough to own one (mine was built in 1953 or 1954) turn them up to 11 cause they sound so damn good." Nigel's now famous phrase have even been recognized by the Oxford English Dictionary.

 

hahaha, i remember that.....but no not a fan of spinal tap!

 

I watch that movie weekly. It's definitely one of my favorites. My wife hates it though.

 

 

Teach me about this. I thought the "JL CLeansweep" was the one to get if I wanted to keep my stock head unit and then branch out from there.


What is wrong with them or what does the other combo offer that the cleansweep does not? More than curious here since I am doing this in two vehicles, our Oddity and the HHR.

I like the full integration of the Navigation, voice control, six cd changer, DVD Rear Seat Entertainment, and more that is stock in the Honda, but the speakers are horrible and it needs a sub and amps. Now it has a potential problem area too as it has active noise cancellation pumping out of phase 50HZ noise back through the stereo.

I should have quite the learning experience there. It is more complicated then the HHR by a huge multilpier

Sorry to hijack the thread, but it is all cool audio stuff, so hopefully good info comes from the query...whicvh I'll state again, Cleansweep is not as good as .......... for what reasons?
I'll get what ever is needed and am seeking knowledge.

 

still wondering

 

it compresses the signal way too much. ever use a noise suppressor? it works the same way. it compresses the signal so much that you need 2 or 3 times more power to make your system sound as good as you initially wanted.

i suggest using http://www.bizrate.com/caraccessorie...-pid540011592/ for the low level signal output.

or use this AC unit http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6359...GRAY+LC6-.html

we like using the AC unit ourselves.