Hey all, just been reading about the factory speakers falling apart and was wondering if this included the cars with the pioneer system? are the speakers the same, but have an amp and a sub? or are the speakers better too and not necessarily prone to falling apart?

I don't have much for chimes or turn signal clicking sounds, so was kinda planning on installing new speakers.

 

The Pioneer sound system has upgraded door speakers along with an amp and sub woofer, but moisture can still ruin a door speaker or two.

 

they fail the same ls or lt , both are paper based what i have found with hundreds of hhr's gl

 

Okay, thank you. That is what I was wondering.

 

It's not the speakers it is the bad window seal. Water gets past it, pools in the bottom, then warm temperatures make vapor, vapor causes deterioration of the cones and corrosion in the coils.

 

Yep, even if you had polypropylene cones, the moisture would still be bad for the speakers. Voicecoil, magnet, wiring.