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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Need Some Quick info on Camber

ok took my newly lowered HHr to get a alignment toe needed very little now camber was -2.0 and I read conflicting info . 1 thing said no more than -0.95 I also saw another thing say no more than -1.75 and to top it off I have also heard alittle extra - camber isnt all that bad . so the guy at the shop told me to figure out what I want to do and bring it back and he would take care of it . so do I buy camber bolts or leave it as is and just rotate my tires alittle more often . thx in advance guys .
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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wildman1122,
I, too, have conflicting specifications from two different sources on the HHR's camber; one says: -1.7 to -2.0 ; the other, Front, RPO -.95, FEO/FE2 +/- 0.75...
I am wanting to know too, as I've just installed Gold Line springs. I DID install the new camber adjusting bolts from gold line. I'm waiting, per instructions, to put 100-150 miles on it to allow the springs to 'settle in'.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Sorry to change the topic...

Originally Posted by wildman1122
ok took my newly lowered HHr to get a alignment toe needed very little now camber was -2.0 and I read conflicting info . 1 thing said no more than -0.95 I also saw another thing say no more than -1.75 and to top it off I have also heard alittle extra - camber isnt all that bad . so the guy at the shop told me to figure out what I want to do and bring it back and he would take care of it . so do I buy camber bolts or leave it as is and just rotate my tires alittle more often . thx in advance guys .
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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I am looking for some info on this topic too...

I am experiencing tire wear on the inside edge of both front tires. It's a stock '08 HHR SS. the center and outside edges of the tires look brand new, but on the inside of the tires, the tread is down past the wear bars.

I did a search on the forum, and came up with that i need a camber kit... any other suggestions?

thanks!
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by thegerman12
I am looking for some info on this topic too...

I am experiencing tire wear on the inside edge of both front tires. It's a stock '08 HHR SS. the center and outside edges of the tires look brand new, but on the inside of the tires, the tread is down past the wear bars.

I did a search on the forum, and came up with that i need a camber kit... any other suggestions?

thanks!
I would think you are in need of a toe adjustment. Extreme camber would be an issue if the tire were leaning in at the top "big time". Reading/degree wise........3 and a half........ you guys out there in the 2 degree ball park....yeah it's gonna wear especially if you let the psi get low or the toe is on the open or loose side of the spec adjustment.
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by thegerman12
I am looking for some info on this topic too...

I am experiencing tire wear on the inside edge of both front tires. It's a stock '08 HHR SS. the center and outside edges of the tires look brand new, but on the inside of the tires, the tread is down past the wear bars.

I did a search on the forum, and came up with that i need a camber kit... any other suggestions?

thanks!
FWD's, especially very powerful ones like HHR SS, do tend to wear the inside of the tire first. As a matter of course, and as stranger suggests, a check of alignment is still a good idea. As the specs above indicate, your car does call for a bit of negative camber to aid in handling, and that would exacerbate the inside wear. However, should you find nothing out of spec when the alignment is checked, this inherent FWD tire wear effect would be the reason why.
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wildman1122
ok took my newly lowered HHr to get a alignment toe needed very little now camber was -2.0 and I read conflicting info . 1 thing said no more than -0.95 I also saw another thing say no more than -1.75 and to top it off I have also heard alittle extra - camber isnt all that bad . so the guy at the shop told me to figure out what I want to do and bring it back and he would take care of it . so do I buy camber bolts or leave it as is and just rotate my tires alittle more often . thx in advance guys .
As a side note...your HHR's camber will not vary much from lowering in the front, and not at all in the rear. Strut suspensions (like HHR front) are much less affected by lowering than unequal-length A-arm suspensions. HHR's rear suspension is a trailing arm twist beam system that sees zero camber change with suspension travel.

However, due to an effect related to "bump-steer", you can almost count on your front toe setting to be quite altered as a result of lowering. As we used to say back in the day: Set the toe and let 'er go!
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Well I bought the camber bolts today although there was no clear cut answers this is what I took from the ones I recieved , Chevy Mgr put specs up and no other statment so I must assume he means here are the spec and they should be followed and then you have Ecoboost they are a high performace company and I assume again the when they say set the toe and go is in the high perforance world you are willing to give alittle tire wear for control again I am assuming all this because of no real clear cut advice and since this is my wifes daily driver and I would like the tires to last as long as possible I got the Camber bolts if I wasnt so far out of the specs (1 full degree) I probably wouldnt but just for all to know I guess most dont need them but my car does even though it has never been abused or hit any curbs . Thx for all the help and I hope it helped others !

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