Brakes | Suspension | Shocks | Struts Brakes,Springs, Shocks,Front End Components & Steering

Warped OEM rotors after 6k miles

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-22-2016, 06:41 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Trex08's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-22-2015
Location: Boston
Posts: 157
Warped OEM rotors after 6k miles

We all know how lame the front rotors are, but I didnt realize they were this pathetic. Mine were dealer installed, 6k miles ago, then just replaced again under warranty because of severe warping. I know re torquing is important, but does anything else cause this?
The rims are factory chrome 16"
Trex08 is offline  
Old 03-22-2016, 07:12 PM
  #2  
Technical Moderator
 
donbrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-23-2009
Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Posts: 24,697
Did anybody think to adjust at least inspect the rears? Since we all know that's the leading cause of warped rotors.
donbrew is offline  
Old 03-22-2016, 08:05 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
DavidLadewig's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-06-2012
Location: Pelham, AL
Posts: 170
Thanks Don,

I never knew that. I just did all four wheels on my HHR and it should last a loooong time. The bear was that parking break cable. It did NOT want to cooperate on either side.
DavidLadewig is offline  
Old 03-22-2016, 08:14 PM
  #4  
Technical Moderator
 
donbrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-23-2009
Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Posts: 24,697
Originally Posted by DavidLadewig
Thanks Don,

I never knew that. I just did all four wheels on my HHR and it should last a loooong time. The bear was that parking break cable. It did NOT want to cooperate on either side.
You must not read this forum much. I can't think of a 2 week period that someone didn't bring it up. One of the top 10 topics.


Did reinvent the vicegrip trick?
donbrew is offline  
Old 03-23-2016, 08:19 AM
  #5  
Administrator
 
Oldblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-2011
Location: Welland,Ont Canada
Posts: 36,519
Those rear brake shoes must be adjusted every oil change , it's not a hard job.
Those deteriorating LCA rear bushings can also cause brake judder.
Oldblue is online now  
Old 03-30-2016, 07:33 PM
  #6  
Member
 
snuffy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-20-2011
Location: Pulpwood Holler, extreme NE GA
Posts: 32
[QUOTE=Oldblue;799541]Those rear brake shoes must be adjusted every oil change , it's not a hard job.[QUOTE]

If I didn't know better I'd say this is beginning to sound like tryin' to maintain an ol' air-cooled V-dub!

But as I recall you had to adjust all four wheels back then...

And if you ever had to slam on the 'brakes' and one of those old rubber lines ballooned out you didn't know which ditch you might end up in.
snuffy is offline  
Old 03-30-2016, 08:00 PM
  #7  
 
Bennyt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-04-2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 8
Not trying to start an argument but rotors rarely, if ever, warp.

Typically what you see is uneven wear and pad transference. Both of these are usually caused by hard stops and high temperatures. After hard(panic) or prolonged(traffic) braking you need to drive for at least 5 minutes to let them cool. A car used for commuting in city traffic will rarely get 5 minutes of cool down time so rotors will need to be changed more often. Driven rural, 2-3 pad changes and rotors may still be true as measured by a dual indicator. My HHR that is driven hard gets rotors every 20k. My Suburban is at 100k on the original pads and rotors. My old road race truck got new rotors every 2-3 track days and more often when the temps were low as they would crack from the extreme temperature changes. My new 16" rotors on my pro-touring car are $400 each so I'll be cooling those down on track days very carefully.
Bennyt is offline  
Old 03-30-2016, 08:52 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Trex08's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-22-2015
Location: Boston
Posts: 157
Originally Posted by Bennyt
Not trying to start an argument but rotors rarely, if ever, warp.

Typically what you see is uneven wear and pad transference. Both of these are usually caused by hard stops and high temperatures. After hard(panic) or prolonged(traffic) braking you need to drive for at least 5 minutes to let them cool. A car used for commuting in city traffic will rarely get 5 minutes of cool down time so rotors will need to be changed more often. Driven rural, 2-3 pad changes and rotors may still be true as measured by a dual indicator. My HHR that is driven hard gets rotors every 20k. My Suburban is at 100k on the original pads and rotors. My old road race truck got new rotors every 2-3 track days and more often when the temps were low as they would crack from the extreme temperature changes. My new 16" rotors on my pro-touring car are $400 each so I'll be cooling those down on track days very carefully.
My driving conditions with these new rotors did not involve either hard stops or prolonged braking in traffic. Def something else involved. Gonna check and adjust rear brakes, but the front rotors on the hhr are def susceptible to warping, a constant source of aggravation to me, other than that, I have absolutely no real complaints about this vehicle. I either just got lucky (it was previously taken from dealer inventory, new, by a dealership and was looked after very well), or it a pretty well built vehicle.
Trex08 is offline  
Old 03-31-2016, 06:48 AM
  #9  
Administrator
 
Oldblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-2011
Location: Welland,Ont Canada
Posts: 36,519
I swapped in larger SS non Brembo rotors, no more judder, even if I forget to adjust the rear shoes
Oldblue is online now  
Old 03-31-2016, 11:32 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
prod's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-14-2007
Location: Toronto ON Canada
Posts: 2,964
Originally Posted by Oldblue
Those rear brake shoes must be adjusted every oil change , it's not a hard job.
Those deteriorating LCA rear bushings can also cause brake judder.
These, and possibly wheel bearings.
prod is offline  


Quick Reply: Warped OEM rotors after 6k miles



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:48 AM.