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Old 02-24-2015, 07:37 PM
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starting problems

I haven't been active in a while so I'd like to apologize for that to begin...I have been so busy I don't check in as often as I'd like...so now for my problems

So yesterday I remote started my car and it ran for the usual 10 minutes ( I heard it start.) I went out about 15 minutes later and tried to start it to go somewhere and it just kept cranking and cranking and wouldn't fire:-(...so of course after a few minutes the battery dies. So today I charge the battery up with a jump from my truck and I checked with my meter to verify the voltage is correct. "dead" it was 11.9v(may have been good enough to start, i dont know)...charging it was at about 14.4v.... and I let it go for probably a half hour. so i disconnect everything and then check the battery and sure enough its at 12.8v.

I try to start it and nothing.. I get a flickering CEL and a bunch of service this and service that crap...I can hear the fuel pump... but I am afraid if I finally get it to turn over than I have other problems...or just the cold?

So next I check the start relay..34 under the hood...tests ok, but I change it out with the defog relay (same relay part number) and the same thing happens...

I also can't hear the start solenoid "hammer/click" noise...Its acting as if the battery is nearly dead but the voltage is proper..oh btw the battery is about 18 months old.

any input would be great!
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:15 AM
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Seems very familiar, dead cell in the battery , have it load tested to confirm , but I would bring your receipt if it's still under warranty.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:24 AM
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You said both cranking and cranking, but no fire and can"t hear the solenoid. Is the starter motor turning the engine over or not?
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Old 02-25-2015, 04:32 PM
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I was pretty frustrated and should be more clear. Currently the car will not turn over. 12.8v present at the battery terminals.

The cause of where I'm at now:
The car did turn over for for a minute or 2 with me trying to start it and it eventually stopped ( I assume I killed the battery).

I checked all fuses and relays. To no avail.

I guess the only other info I have is the day before I took a 150 trip the was fine with the exception of a moment where the DIC said eng power reduced. It only came up for a half second and it was fine....no limp mode or anything.

Can the battery show 12.8 on the meter and still be done for? And if I had jumper cables hooked up for a while shouldn't it turn over?
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I would look at the ground wire at the radiator support driver side and the red connection to the fuse box for starters.
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Ok so some new info. The battery dropped from 12.5v to 11.5v or so when I tried to start it. Is this normal if it doesn't turn over? Thanks for thehelp I appreciate it:-) .

I can't get under it until tomorrow with some daylight
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12.5 is too low. 11.5 won't turn it over.
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Thanks a million Donbrew...
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You can get to the ground wires from up top, sounds like the battery is done, but do have it checked out with a load test if possible
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Well I bought a battery. Picking it up tomorrow (not in stock). My battery is seriously less than 2 years old. Kinda weird if it's the problem
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