Gas Mileage
I just went outside to check the DIC.
It said average MPG was 21.5 and my average speed was 25 mph. This is for the last 950 miles that we have driven since we re-set the trip OD.
I understand about the sweet spot for optimal milage, but im NOT going to drive 50 mph on a 70 mph Highway. Thats just NOT going to happen.
Octane is 89
Auto trans
2.4 engine
Reside in Michigan
It said average MPG was 21.5 and my average speed was 25 mph. This is for the last 950 miles that we have driven since we re-set the trip OD.
I understand about the sweet spot for optimal milage, but im NOT going to drive 50 mph on a 70 mph Highway. Thats just NOT going to happen.
Octane is 89
Auto trans
2.4 engine
Reside in Michigan
got me a little confused
Yesterday I drove across Florida and back 233 miles and filled up once I got home, 6.6 gallons... 35 mpg, DIC said 31? Granted most of the drive was ~55 except a 60 mile stretch on I-4 where I was the slow one at 70-75 mph.
We've had this conversation Bro
Tell us more about the length of your trips each, octane, city vs highway, mileage on longer trips, speeds, auto/manual. Elevation etc. 20mpg is ABSURDLY low. As I told another person with the exact same complaint. Either you hhr is broke, or you driving is. No offense, you may just take really short trips, and always startup cold (the reason for the other members poor mileage). Log a week or so of each trip you make.
I'm pissed right now that my overal mileage has dropped to 34.4mpg 70/30 hhy/city.
Let me know.
I'm pissed right now that my overal mileage has dropped to 34.4mpg 70/30 hhy/city.
Let me know.
I thought mine was broke. I get CRAP mileage but found out why. My commute is 2 miles to work and back so this plus after work errands work out to be about 10 miles a day M-F. It's all hills, I rarely get above 30-35 MPH so Im running around in 3rd gear most of the time. My new record LOW miles per tank was 186 and 13.73 MPG. This particular low was 2 days of driving like a fuggin madman.When I change my route and avoid the damn hills, when I can I make sure to get the TC locked up and back down to speed limit and the mileage goes up significantly. The best Ive gotten was 20MPG and this was 95% city driving, all below 40 MPH with a couple of 40 mile trips on the freeway. No cold start driving, I live in Cali and 2 minutes after start, the temp goes up. No need to warm up.
When I get on the freeway, I go 60-65 MPH and the DIC says 28-30MPG so I know its not broke. What I would really like to do is lower the speed that the TC locks up in. Ive looked into this and it seems that at least for now, nothing is available to modify the factory calibration of a 2.4 auto. I also noticed a black tailpipe but failed to disclose that I was using Lucas fuel treatment waaaay too often. I have since stopped this.
As mentioned in this thread, when you can drive in lock up mode, you get killer city mileage. Even the folks that have bumper to bumper commutes will get good mileage because they're RPMs' are still low. Its the running in 3rd/2500-3000 RPM's that will kill the mileage. I use 87 octane. Ive had it in the dealer twice and they find nothing wrong. No codes found, its my driving that's the cause.
I just went outside to check the DIC.
It said average MPG was 21.5 and my average speed was 25 mph. This is for the last 950 miles that we have driven since we re-set the trip OD.
I understand about the sweet spot for optimal milage, but im NOT going to drive 50 mph on a 70 mph Highway. Thats just NOT going to happen.
Octane is 89
Auto trans
2.4 engine
Reside in Michigan
It said average MPG was 21.5 and my average speed was 25 mph. This is for the last 950 miles that we have driven since we re-set the trip OD.
I understand about the sweet spot for optimal milage, but im NOT going to drive 50 mph on a 70 mph Highway. Thats just NOT going to happen.
Octane is 89
Auto trans
2.4 engine
Reside in Michigan
IMPORTANT.
These are numbers that you should see over thousands of miles. Not some TOOL quoting a one-time-trip.
I do 55ish on the highway, and the limit in the city. At 75% highway or less, I am averaging 37mph.
Your problem is your avg speed.
You should log a day or two of your typical drives and reset your odo-b,avg spd, avg mpg and see what happens.
You must not have reset your dic avg mpg at the time of the fill up. There is NO WAY it is off by that much. I have never seen it of by more than 0.25mpg in my hhr ss. I track my mileage like a fanatic, and you DIC is DEAD ON.
I thought mine was broke. I get CRAP mileage but found out why. My commute is 2 miles to work and back so this plus after work errands work out to be about 10 miles a day M-F. It's all hills, I rarely get above 30-35 MPH so Im running around in 3rd gear most of the time. My new record LOW miles per tank was 186 and 13.73 MPG. This particular low was 2 days of driving like a fuggin madman.When I change my route and avoid the damn hills, when I can I make sure to get the TC locked up and back down to speed limit and the mileage goes up significantly. The best Ive gotten was 20MPG and this was 95% city driving, all below 40 MPH with a couple of 40 mile trips on the freeway. No cold start driving, I live in Cali and 2 minutes after start, the temp goes up. No need to warm up.
When I get on the freeway, I go 60-65 MPH and the DIC says 28-30MPG so I know its not broke. What I would really like to do is lower the speed that the TC locks up in. Ive looked into this and it seems that at least for now, nothing is available to modify the factory calibration of a 2.4 auto. I also noticed a black tailpipe but failed to disclose that I was using Lucas fuel treatment waaaay too often. I have since stopped this.
As mentioned in this thread, when you can drive in lock up mode, you get killer city mileage. Even the folks that have bumper to bumper commutes will get good mileage because they're RPMs' are still low. Its the running in 3rd/2500-3000 RPM's that will kill the mileage. I use 87 octane. Ive had it in the dealer twice and they find nothing wrong. No codes found, its my driving that's the cause.
When I get on the freeway, I go 60-65 MPH and the DIC says 28-30MPG so I know its not broke. What I would really like to do is lower the speed that the TC locks up in. Ive looked into this and it seems that at least for now, nothing is available to modify the factory calibration of a 2.4 auto. I also noticed a black tailpipe but failed to disclose that I was using Lucas fuel treatment waaaay too often. I have since stopped this.
As mentioned in this thread, when you can drive in lock up mode, you get killer city mileage. Even the folks that have bumper to bumper commutes will get good mileage because they're RPMs' are still low. Its the running in 3rd/2500-3000 RPM's that will kill the mileage. I use 87 octane. Ive had it in the dealer twice and they find nothing wrong. No codes found, its my driving that's the cause.
Yeah in my "Absurd Mileage" thread (sorry for being lazy an not updating) i do take a few trips on purpose to the drive thru, house shopping, and in a monsoon like rain (Browns pre season opener), just to show what these things can do to mileage. It rained so hard last Thursday that I LOOKED FOR MOSES!!!!!
I also lost my hypermiling cool and put the SMACK DOWN on a late 90's turbo eclispe (pristine condition). You know the one, women loved it's cutesy curves, the dudes all wanted the awd turbo version. Anyway, I had to represent the LNF. He began driving recklessly to keep up with me in heavy traffic. So i slowed back down to 55 and let him pass me after leaving him in the dust 3 seperate times at 90+.
The point is that my mpg for that specific trip with only 5 miles of 12.4 miles driving like Fast n Furious dropped to 28.2, I have never seen mileage below 35 all the other times i drove it. So 90% of the mileage problems here are between the steering wheel and the seat.
later
Does anyone have information on how the DIC calculates the milage figure?
Im coming off of a 2003 Saturn Ion 3 and my mileage at 80mph on the Expressway was about 31 mph with the 2.3 Ecotec engine in it.
I certainly wont travel that fast in my 2008 HHR, but at 73 MPH with the cruise control set, I sure would expect to get 27-28 MPG.
Its just not happening. I think when I take a quick trip to Detriot this Wednesday, I'll go up to a tank of 91 Octane and see what happens.
Bill
I certainly wont travel that fast in my 2008 HHR, but at 73 MPH with the cruise control set, I sure would expect to get 27-28 MPG.
Its just not happening. I think when I take a quick trip to Detriot this Wednesday, I'll go up to a tank of 91 Octane and see what happens.
Bill
Last edited by TopWop; Aug 11, 2008 at 03:27 PM.
I recently made a 500 mile trip from IL to MI - nice weather all the way. I have the 2.4 automatic and was using 93 octane fuel. The first several hours I had the cruise set at 60 and the DIC showed the average mileage had worked its way up to 34.0 mpg. The last few hours I bumped the speed to 70 and the average mpg shown on the DIC dropped 2.5+ mpg.
Now I know the DIC numbers are not necessarily accurate, but they are useful to show trends. My HHR seems to show "significant" decreases in mileage above 60, more than I would have anticipated.
Now I know the DIC numbers are not necessarily accurate, but they are useful to show trends. My HHR seems to show "significant" decreases in mileage above 60, more than I would have anticipated.


