Here in Arizona it all has ethanol.

 

Hell, I consider anything under 60.....cold weather. But as far as the article, I don't remember if a temperature was mentioned. I was researching ethanol use in the automotive world and ran across that statement, plus some discussion, supporting it. I do believe, it may have been the very northern plains states (Dakotas...maybe upper Michigan and Wisconsin) and maybe Canada. I did notice quite a lot of the stations in the Dakotas used ethanol blend, on my summer vacation 2 years ago.

Car Guy.....do they have ethanol blends in the outlying parts of the state? Like, Yuma, Flagstaff, Winslow, Douglas. I know at one time it was just the 2 counties, Pima and Maricopa. In fact, I live on the edge of Maricopa, next to Pinal. I might need to take a drive and see if Apache Junction pumps the blend.

 

I do not know of any place that has pure gas. I believe Ethanol hurts mileage but the gas stations here are not required to say how much is in there. The pump only says "May contain up to 10% Ethanol" Every station I have asked says they think it has Ethanol in it but not sure how much.

 

Yeah...that's pretty much the same as it is in Michigan... Thanks Granholm!

I know people say ethanol makes NO difference to mileage or performance, but I beg to differ.

My truck was built in 1983, and the engine in it is from 1972. Obviously, neither was designed for any ethanol content. Over the past few years it has started running rougher. Sure it may be from age, but it was still old 8 years ago too! If I put premium in it (which has less ethanol) it does seem to run better.

Perhaps this is even why I've noticed MPG gains in my Lumina with premium. It isn't the gas that's better, it's the less ethanol....

 

I now have 3200 miles on the odo of my 2.4 HHR and was unhappy about the gas mileage, I was getting 20 city and 26 highway, was told even new should be getting better than that. Dealer told me to use tier 1 gas example Shell or Chevron etc. I was burning Premium with a 10 percent ethanol blend, someone told me that the ethanol lowers the mileage, so tried Chevron Premium without the ethanol blend and today I recorded 34.2 on the freeway. Does anyone know if you can remove the ethanol sensor or if it would do any good to do so, also if a person can only get ethanol blend(was told by station attendant that all gas had to have blend by end of year nation wide) what additive in the gas would be recommended? Either way it still gets better mpg than my 3/4 ton Surburban.:)

 

I'm thinking that what you read was just someone blowing smoke. There is so much misleading, anecdotal "evidence", and junk science spewed out by people on both sides of the issue that I no longer read anything related to Ethanol. Being from WI and having had to use E10 for the last 15 years or so, I have never had a bad cold weather experience with it. No one I know has either.

I still wear shorts and T-Shirts at 60.

 

When Pennsylvania allowed ethanol to be added to motor fuels with no more than a sticker on the pump, I noticed my mileage starting to fall off. My wife discovered one station in town that has no ethanol and there's another 3 or 4 in the county that I know of. I started using the no ethanol regular and my mileage regained the 10% it had lost. So, my question is this -- If I save 10% of the gasoline and have to use 10% more of the ethanol blend, does ethanol do anything more than transfer tax subsidies to the ethanol distillers?

 

In Florida there are several stations that sell no ethanol gas. Usually it is marine grade gas. No particular brand has exclusive rights to it. There is a BP station a few miles from me @ $0.15/gallon, unless you use a BP card or cash. I drove down to the Keys this past weekend and saw several stations advertising ethanol free gas along the route.

 

Even without ethanol, there may be oxygenates added that are even nastier.

 

A point that more and more people are trying to make.

Using ethanol saves you absolutely nothing. Sure, it is cheaper... but you also get less energy out of it, thus less miles per gallon. So how is that supposed to be a good thing?

Besides, don't we have better things to do with our corn crop besides burn it in our cars?