The biggest problem facing the big 3 is public perception. People remember the crap that was foisted on them when the Toyota's and Honda's of the world were not so big. Granted the domestics have done a lot to improve quality and product of the last 5 years but if you can't get people to even consider your cars it won't matter what they do. I like what Ford has been doing with their ads showing real people driving and throughly enjoying their vehicles. GM should be doing something similar.

 

I have enough to worry about in my own little world to worry too much about GM. I buy GM cars, and that's about all I can do to help.

I like GM. I hope they will be ok. I'll keep buying GM cars as long as they continue to make good quality vehicles like HHR's, Corvettes, Avalanches and Saab's.

 

Absolutely NOT TRUE..... I'm ready to support my statement with links to facts. Can you do the same with your statements. Another of those absolutely amazing statements (and BS) that people make.

And Cokeybill.....

I'm with you as a retired GM SALARIED employee. Worried NO....CONCERNED, YES.

And the "statement" slave labor for years, is somewhat in appropriate. Toyota, over the past decade, has increased wages and provided assembly workers excellent life styles as compared to other Asian countries. Maybe you are referring to parts acquired from other facilities in other countries......but that slave labor term can then be applied to GM as well since vehicle content is increasing foreign.

Disregard my last statement.....you supported that with the link for Toyota and parts suppliers from 3rd world countries....which was my guess. So, how much time will it take for someone to point to GM for the same activity???

 

Not a lot of truth here, but it may be due to reading to much wikipedia

1 - Honda and GM have some agreements to share On-Star and some V6 engines, but there is no equity positions by either party.

2 - GM has some agreements with Toyota on Fuel cell technolgy sharing, and Toyota and GM shared production at the Fremont CA NUMMI plant where there are Toyota and GM autos produced.

3 - XM has a long term distribution agreement with GM for thier vehicles as an exclusive supplier for Sattelite radio. This is likely what prompted the Serius (sp?) Radio purchase of XM. Again, no linkage of ownership, just agreements here.

4 - New Corp bought GM's peice of Direct TV years ago. I'm not sure if GM has any equity left in any of the DISH/Direct TV game.

5 - As far as I can tell there is no linkage between Disney/ABC/ESPN and GM other than lot's of commercial advertisements and some promotional ties between the two companies. House of Mouse has some sort of holding company that owns stocks and there may be some GM shares in there someplace.

Hopefully that clears up a lot of the "Mistaken Identities" posted by Eddie.

 

Thanks...

All agreements as you indicated (and with Disney, that status could be construed as the other way around...Disney could own SOME of GM). You reinforced my point...Agreements...nothing but. Not any different than any other major company, and not enough to prevent a company from bankruptcy.

Which, by the way, is probably the only action that will allow GM to remain competitive. If you research the bankruptcy/reorganization laws and companies that successfully vacated those requirments, GM is ripe for this maneuver. I don't like the thought of it, but it's a realistic approach.

At least somebody has some sense to research for the truth.

 

Let's not forget GM sponsoring Test Track at EPCOT!!

 

GM will be fine. Didn't we go through this back in 92'.....still here....
People just "want" it to fail to prove their feelings about green-hybrid this and green-hydrogen that, and SUV-scare-me this and SUBURBANs-too-big that etc......

My HHR rocks anything i could consider a comparable vehicle by any other maker. I really feel this way.... To tell you the truth unless they add awd (lightweight with the 260hp), my next vehicle will be an 201x HHR SS.

 

GM and Ford will be around for a long time. Throw in Dodge and what you'll see is a bunch of makeovers. I think (and it's just my ) that's we'll see them convert all of the trucks over to a commercial division and keep the small stuff out for the every day consumers/divers.

 

OK, that makes sense, floods the market. I'm guessing it's a holdout from when GM had the majority of market share.

 

Not Wikipedia but stories and half truths from people in the industry.

I have been in the industry so long I hear many things. But from working on cars I see many shared components amungst auto makers. Delphi parts in Toyota, Honda parts in Saturns. etc...

It was my understanding that not too long ago, GM won a lawsuit against Honda for Honda using patented GM technology from the NorthStar engines. And the payout was a piece of Honda to GM. Shortly after this Saturn was created.

If I am wrong I am wrong, no need to be harsh.