Bye-Bye to GM’s V-8s - Car News
01-16-2008, 04:38 PM
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01-16-2008, 06:01 PM
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It just seems that a Chevy small block V-8 with the right gearing would achieve that 35mpg if they really tried. Just get rid of that darn E85 which drags down the mpg (along with the guy who's in office pushing it) IMO
01-16-2008, 06:36 PM
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I wonder if toyota or honda will get rid of their v-8 since it only has to average 35 mpg. They have the prius and insight that both get high mpg to help their average. Maybe GM should put out a hybrid quick to help out theirs.
01-16-2008, 07:05 PM
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GM does have many hybrid vehicles out or coming out very soon. There are mild hybrid for models such as: Saturn Vue, Chevy Tahoe, Chevy Malibu, Saturn Aura and I thought that a few pickups could be had as hybrids as well.
GM is working on developing a, I think they are called, parallel electric hybrid (??) Chevy Volt. If this comes to market around 2010 as they expect it will really help with fleet wide numbers.
GM is working on developing a, I think they are called, parallel electric hybrid (??) Chevy Volt. If this comes to market around 2010 as they expect it will really help with fleet wide numbers.
01-16-2008, 08:16 PM
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hmmmm a V6 Corvette....I dont see that happening.
so...if I understand it...they only have to *average* 35 mpg with all the production cars combined?
Knowing GM...they'll have a way to keep the Corvette. a supercharged V6 Denali...I can see it now. Better yet...a turbo diesel...210 hp, 850 lb/ft torque
so...if I understand it...they only have to *average* 35 mpg with all the production cars combined?
Knowing GM...they'll have a way to keep the Corvette. a supercharged V6 Denali...I can see it now. Better yet...a turbo diesel...210 hp, 850 lb/ft torque
01-16-2008, 08:56 PM
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The 200+ mpg carburetor patent was bought up by the oil companies & suppressed from being used on vehicles. 
Here is an article I found:
There are many urban myths regarding high mileage carburetors and unique energy devices. One of the most common stories is the two hundred miles per gallon carburetor patented and demonstrated in the mid-1930’s by Charles Pogue.
My own years of study uncovered that this vaporizing carb did actually work so well that Standard Oil Company purchased the rights to the carburetor after reformulating gasoline with additives. This new fuel recipe corrupted the thermo-catalytic reaction that created such unusual efficiency and pollution reduction in the Pogue invention. Mr. Pogue’s carburetor was actually a molecular disruptor that broke the fuel molecules into the fundamental clean burning carbon and hydrogen gasses prior to combustion in the engine.
The Pogue carburetor later showed up on American tanks and Australian Bren gun carriers in North Africa during WWII to assist in the defeat of Gen. Rommel’s diesel powered Panzer tanks. There was a metal shroud over the unit that stated: “Property of Standard Oil Co., No User Serviceable Parts, Do Not Remove This Cover”. General Rommel’s memoirs are reputed to attribute his defeat in North Africa to a secret Allied Super Carburetor.
Unfortunately, there are few people left living who can corroborate this story.
A modern example of very real suppression of clean energy technology that can be easily verified happened over the past month.
Paul Zigouras was selling an electric control unit (ECU) and electrolyser on e-Bay to make hydrogen fuel from water. He was selling these units to help subsidize his research on how to more than efficiently crack water into its component hydrogen and oxygen gasses. He had taken public information from expired patents and schematics from the Internet to build the units that he was selling.
Zigouras had developed an improved circuit that exceeded Faraday output by a large measure using a resonant electrical pulse that literally kept itself tuned to the frequency best suited for maximum output. His unit blasted two gallons of water a minute into hydrogen/oxygen gas which was enough to run and auto or boat engine.
He openly communicated with alternative energy Yahoo forum members on the workings of his assembly that he maintained was not practical for a car because of the large water consumption. However, he had a marine repair company, Zigouras Racing, and he wanted to develop marine engines that would literally run on water. Since the exhaust was also water, he had developed a fuel and pollution free marine power unit, every mariner’s dream.
Soon after, Paul eased out of forum discussions in which he had been so formerly forthcoming citing legal concerns. At the same time, a friend of mine with his wife flew from Lexington, Kentucky to visit Paul Zigouras in Brockton, Massachusetts. Their story from Paul is a classic case of suppression of new energy technology:
Two men in black from the Justice Department had visited Paul threatening that he would be subject to high fines and fifty years in prison if he sold anther unit due to national security concerns. Not long after, another group, whose identity Paul did not disclose, offered him and his partners six million dollars to drop the project.
Since our Federal Government was not going to let him produce the units, Paul and his business partners took the money. The use of threats and intimidation followed by a purchase of rights to the technology is why many emerging competitive energy concepts and products have been sitting on a black shelf. The participation of the Justice Department to assist the energy monopoly should outrage every patriotic American citizen!
In Japan, the most prolific inventor of our time, Dr. Yoshiro Nakamatsu, who invented the floppy disk has over 3,000 patents that he recorded. One of those inventions is a working scooter that cracks hydrogen on demand from tap water to power a small fuel cell that feeds an electric motor. His motor vehicle can silently zip through traffic with only water vapor for exhaust. Instead of being suppressed by G-men, the Japanese people hold Dr. Nakamatsu in great esteem. Mazda and Lexus are working to adopt this amazing technology in automobiles.
President George W. Bush promised to support a hydrogen economy. Last week, Congressman Steny Hoyer pledged his commitment in an interview in ST. MARY’S TODAY for new alternative energy technologies. However, when an enterprising American citizen does make the very means possible to escape consumption of fossil fuel and fulfill these political promises, agents of our government show up to suppress the technology.
Unlike the stories surrounding the high mileage carburetor that Mr. Pogue engineered, the Zigouras information is presently archived on the Internet and available to all who seek. Mr. Zigouras is still alive though it may take a subpoena to get him to talk due to any disclosure agreement within his multi-million dollar contract not to develop his products.
Unlike past stories, the smoking gun of energy suppression is available here and can be documented. Do not expect a Congressional investigation or full disclosure in the main steam media.
The fact is: They don’t want you to know!
Larry Jarboe 03/18/07
Here is an article I found:
There are many urban myths regarding high mileage carburetors and unique energy devices. One of the most common stories is the two hundred miles per gallon carburetor patented and demonstrated in the mid-1930’s by Charles Pogue.
My own years of study uncovered that this vaporizing carb did actually work so well that Standard Oil Company purchased the rights to the carburetor after reformulating gasoline with additives. This new fuel recipe corrupted the thermo-catalytic reaction that created such unusual efficiency and pollution reduction in the Pogue invention. Mr. Pogue’s carburetor was actually a molecular disruptor that broke the fuel molecules into the fundamental clean burning carbon and hydrogen gasses prior to combustion in the engine.
The Pogue carburetor later showed up on American tanks and Australian Bren gun carriers in North Africa during WWII to assist in the defeat of Gen. Rommel’s diesel powered Panzer tanks. There was a metal shroud over the unit that stated: “Property of Standard Oil Co., No User Serviceable Parts, Do Not Remove This Cover”. General Rommel’s memoirs are reputed to attribute his defeat in North Africa to a secret Allied Super Carburetor.
Unfortunately, there are few people left living who can corroborate this story.
A modern example of very real suppression of clean energy technology that can be easily verified happened over the past month.
Paul Zigouras was selling an electric control unit (ECU) and electrolyser on e-Bay to make hydrogen fuel from water. He was selling these units to help subsidize his research on how to more than efficiently crack water into its component hydrogen and oxygen gasses. He had taken public information from expired patents and schematics from the Internet to build the units that he was selling.
Zigouras had developed an improved circuit that exceeded Faraday output by a large measure using a resonant electrical pulse that literally kept itself tuned to the frequency best suited for maximum output. His unit blasted two gallons of water a minute into hydrogen/oxygen gas which was enough to run and auto or boat engine.
He openly communicated with alternative energy Yahoo forum members on the workings of his assembly that he maintained was not practical for a car because of the large water consumption. However, he had a marine repair company, Zigouras Racing, and he wanted to develop marine engines that would literally run on water. Since the exhaust was also water, he had developed a fuel and pollution free marine power unit, every mariner’s dream.
Soon after, Paul eased out of forum discussions in which he had been so formerly forthcoming citing legal concerns. At the same time, a friend of mine with his wife flew from Lexington, Kentucky to visit Paul Zigouras in Brockton, Massachusetts. Their story from Paul is a classic case of suppression of new energy technology:
Two men in black from the Justice Department had visited Paul threatening that he would be subject to high fines and fifty years in prison if he sold anther unit due to national security concerns. Not long after, another group, whose identity Paul did not disclose, offered him and his partners six million dollars to drop the project.
Since our Federal Government was not going to let him produce the units, Paul and his business partners took the money. The use of threats and intimidation followed by a purchase of rights to the technology is why many emerging competitive energy concepts and products have been sitting on a black shelf. The participation of the Justice Department to assist the energy monopoly should outrage every patriotic American citizen!
In Japan, the most prolific inventor of our time, Dr. Yoshiro Nakamatsu, who invented the floppy disk has over 3,000 patents that he recorded. One of those inventions is a working scooter that cracks hydrogen on demand from tap water to power a small fuel cell that feeds an electric motor. His motor vehicle can silently zip through traffic with only water vapor for exhaust. Instead of being suppressed by G-men, the Japanese people hold Dr. Nakamatsu in great esteem. Mazda and Lexus are working to adopt this amazing technology in automobiles.
President George W. Bush promised to support a hydrogen economy. Last week, Congressman Steny Hoyer pledged his commitment in an interview in ST. MARY’S TODAY for new alternative energy technologies. However, when an enterprising American citizen does make the very means possible to escape consumption of fossil fuel and fulfill these political promises, agents of our government show up to suppress the technology.
Unlike the stories surrounding the high mileage carburetor that Mr. Pogue engineered, the Zigouras information is presently archived on the Internet and available to all who seek. Mr. Zigouras is still alive though it may take a subpoena to get him to talk due to any disclosure agreement within his multi-million dollar contract not to develop his products.
Unlike past stories, the smoking gun of energy suppression is available here and can be documented. Do not expect a Congressional investigation or full disclosure in the main steam media.
The fact is: They don’t want you to know!
Larry Jarboe 03/18/07
01-16-2008, 10:24 PM
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I just love that the government is meddling into every aspect of our lives... Next they will start telling you what to eat and enforce it or tax you to death.
What kind of mpg a car gets is none of there concern. Let the market dictate what happens not the Government.
Anybody ever read 1984? It was something to be afraid of not aspire to.
What kind of mpg a car gets is none of there concern. Let the market dictate what happens not the Government.
Anybody ever read 1984? It was something to be afraid of not aspire to.