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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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How difficult was it to install your boards by yourself? Pretty straight forward but just time consuming? At any time during the install was there an "Oh Chit" moment where you could have damaged your car? I know there is a thread somwehere on this but wannted to hear from recent experience...
Installing them was pretty straightforward but time consuming. It would have gone faster if not for the problem noted below.

I had problems with the ends of some of the mounts not lining up properly with the slots in the boards, so they wouldn't fully insert. A blind nut from one of the front wheel wells came loose so I had to get that back in place without removing the boards for a third time

The only "damage" I did was when removing the old rocker panel coverings. The rocker panel covers are really on tight. I ended up having to use a trim removal tool to get them off and ended up with a couple of scratches in the painted area that the old rocker panels were covering. I'll spray some rust protectant on that area.
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Rrailwriter...
your last paragraph is particularly interesting. Just think about how many times you returned to Target, JoAnnes, etc. and saw the same sales person. Bet your car sales person is now gone, or will be soon. The "turn-over" rate of car salespeople, in the Valley of the Sun, is probably as bad as Mickey Dees or Burger King.

MOST (not all) car salepeople are less than professional, and are probably employed as such, only until they find something better/else.

Just providing an analogy to think about.
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Goose
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How difficult was it to install your boards by yourself? Pretty straight forward but just time consuming? I know there is a thread somwehere on this but wannted to hear from recent experience...
Here's TCRNCOB's how to...........

RUNNING BOARD HOW TO
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
MOST (not all) car salepeople are less than professional, and are probably employed as such, only until they find something better/else.
They tend to want to work their way up to the better brands......Caddy, Infiniti, Lexus..........
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Bigger "bucks"....bigger commission.
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rrailwriter
You're right on that one Captain Howdy, we "should have" done our homework instead of just looking at how cute the HHR looks, and the amount of space it would provide. Clearly the fact that GM doesn't care what their sales people are telling the public, just goes to show that the bottom line is they are just out to make a buck, and they don't care about the product they are selling to the public. It's too bad, and if that's the case, we're really having buyers remorse over buying a Chevy..........no matter how cute we thought it was.

Our mistake then would be in thinking that the salesmen, having been hired to sell a Chevy product, are supposed to know about the product they are selling, so they can inform the public about any question they might have before that person forks over their hard earned bucks for that product. It's like the day we saw an ad for a new HHR from a dealer here in town and we drove right over to see it, the sales men at that dealer all acted like they didn't have a clue about such a car, and asked us if we had the ad with us. I find that very amusing because they only deal in vehicles, I can go to Michael's, JoAnn's, Target, Walmart, Kohl's, and oodles of other stores which carry a big variety of merchandise and ask for a product I saw in an ad, and the funny thing is, they usually know exactly what I am talking about and can tell me just where to go find it, and they can give me information on a product they are selling.

I didn't mean to come off as a jerk. I have encountered some excellent car salesmen who do genuinely care, know the products they are selling, and take every GM course possible. Then I personally know a few guys that sell or have sold cars that can't tell the difference between a dipstick and a spark plug. Like my buddy Scott. He was a great salesman because he is a respectable looking guy, has an outgoing personality, can be completely fake, lie to your face, and be sympathetic when need be. The classic snake oil salesman. He sold a lot of cars in his time as a car salesman but doesn't know sh*t about cars in general not just the ones he was selling. He was just in it for quick money and ended up getting fired for flirting a little too hard with a married woman trying to make a sale. His boss deemed it as inappropriate behavior and let him go probably after complaints from the woman and her husband. BTW he didn't make that sale. You can't blame GM for employees of privately owned dealerships but you can blame the dealership in question for their choice of people representing their products. I don't trust most salesmen and have been known to walk out of a dealership or request a different salesman from the sales manager because I felt I couldn't deal with a person. In order to earn my commission you have to prove you deserve it. I hate when I go into a dealership and know more about the product than the salesman which has happened every single time I have bought a car. It seems like good and deserving salesmen are few and far between around here. It also seems like with my luck the first salesman to approach me on a lot is always seems to be their biggest dip or newest guy. I always find at least one I feel I can put my trust in though, usually a veteran of the dealership. A pretty good indication of a good salesman is how long they have worked at the dealership. I'm not saying thats always true but most of the time you don't last for like 10 years at a dealership if you just care about the money, don't know your products, and like to screw people. I won't even tell you about the one or two week hire dealers that they hire specifically for tent sales and clearances that were working at McDonalds last week.

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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Oh yeah........The most important part when making a deal is staying in control of the situation and not letting the salesman lead your decisions.
Old May 4, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Great posts.....Captain
Old May 4, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I`m turning blue...

But should I be standing by the mailbox, holding my breath, waiting for a refund check from GM for buying running boards that should`ve been part of the car to start off with. (working the design flaw angle )
Old May 4, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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But should I be standing by the mailbox, holding my breath, waiting for a refund check from GM for buying running boards that should`ve been part of the car to start off with. (working the design flaw angle )
Maybe if we all go to court or call the BBB it will happen.



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