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90
55
11.80%
93
107
22.96%
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Fuel Grades

Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by captain howdy
Really? A few cents per gallon seems like an odd thing to make or break a deal to me. But then again when I buy a car I don't care about things like fuel economy or what grade fuel it uses.
Up here it's something like 10 to 12 cents per litre difference between 87 and 91...and with there being 3.78 litres to a US gallon, it's works out to around 45 cents a gallon/$7 a tank difference.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bigplayrayr
Glad I saw this post, I had no idea a higher octane was recoomended for the 2.4. You think my salesman would have said something

At least Chevy should put a label on the fuel cap saying 91 or higher octane.
Modern EFI cars have sensors which will adjust tuning if a less-than-optimal octane rating is used. This avoids valve knock and damage to expensive engine parts chronic knocking will cause, but the power curve drops a little and you aren't getting the ponies you paid for when it's running in this "dumbed down for cheap gas" mode.

Don't lose any sleep over it if you've put 87 octane in a late-model car for which 91 is "recommended" but not required. No harm done--they're all made to cope with it since 91 simply isn't available in all parts of the country all the time.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Rose
Up here it's something like 10 to 12 cents per litre difference between 87 and 91...and with there being 3.78 litres to a US gallon, it's works out to around 45 cents a gallon/$7 a tank difference.
I think in the long run gas milage wont be the same. They made the motor like that for a reason. I would think there is some reason why.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ern
I think in the long run gas milage wont be the same. They made the motor like that for a reason. I would think there is some reason why.
The reason is the 2.4 is a higher compression engine at 10.5 to 1. At higher compression ratios you are more likely to get pre ignition hence the higher octane fuel.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dbfruth
The reason is the 2.4 is a higher compression engine at 10.5 to 1. At higher compression ratios you are more likely to get pre ignition hence the higher octane fuel.
There was sarcasm in my post. Guess it wasnt noticed.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ern
There was sarcasm in my post. Guess it wasnt noticed.
I obviously did not pick up on it. my bad
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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I didn't pick up on it either.

Then again, I haven't been able to correlate the reply with the quoted text
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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In the old days of leaded gas, you could go 1/2 tank leaded reg. and 1/2 tank of unleaded premium and the lead in the reg. would give a slight boost to the premium's octane.
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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And I am using 91 octne.....2.4 with less than 3000kms. Will try 87 (reg.) sometime after 1st oil change to see how it goes. It is the min. recommended in the manual. Best rating I've seen is 91 octane. I don't have a Shell stn. nearby so 93 is kinda hard to find.

Jim
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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I alternate between Preimium and Regular Unleaded. My observations are with just Premium, I get a little better gas mileage.

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