Made a PT driver angry today
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Joined: 02-19-2012
Posts: 1,015
From: Northern California
Well, the HHR SS auto starts at 250hp (as soon as 3rd arrives). Less than a grand invested will make it close to (or more than) 300hp. While I realize that torque and gearing make the difference, if you're talking horses, I think the average HHR SS owner is rolling with way more horses than a PT GT. I don't know how much you can do with a PT, but I know there is a lot of headroom in the LNF engine in the HHR SS.
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Joined: 10-04-2010
Posts: 724
From: Delaware
PT GT vs HHR SS auto (detuned from factory)...... would be a good race.
PT GT vs HHR SS manual..... the SS would easily pull away.
Well, the HHR SS auto starts at 250hp (as soon as 3rd arrives). Less than a grand invested will make it close to (or more than) 300hp. While I realize that torque and gearing make the difference, if you're talking horses, I think the average HHR SS owner is rolling with way more horses than a PT GT. I don't know how much you can do with a PT, but I know there is a lot of headroom in the LNF engine in the HHR SS.
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Joined: 07-05-2008
Posts: 5,464
From: Akron Ohio
The key is the HHR SS in stock form will out run a PT but the Neon is lighter so it is a little closer. THe Caliper turbo has more HP so it is as fast or faster in stock form with similar weight.
As for car with mods. Few of the PT's get much I have seen a few but not many, These guys go for the Neon as it is lighter and faster. Generally they also do not hide the mods so it is generally clear that the car has had work. I have 2 at work that are 12-13 second cars and a couple here around home. Things like the Exhuast and bigger intercoolers and sprayers often point to a car that is not stock. Also they have cams in them too. The Neon was a popular car to mod here in Ohio.
Most PTs here are just sticker and bolt on mod vehicles. You will see a turbo but generally the mods are chome and a set of wheels.
I am not a Mopar fan but the Neon and the parts that you can get make for a good car to build for the street at a resonable price.
As for car with mods. Few of the PT's get much I have seen a few but not many, These guys go for the Neon as it is lighter and faster. Generally they also do not hide the mods so it is generally clear that the car has had work. I have 2 at work that are 12-13 second cars and a couple here around home. Things like the Exhuast and bigger intercoolers and sprayers often point to a car that is not stock. Also they have cams in them too. The Neon was a popular car to mod here in Ohio.
Most PTs here are just sticker and bolt on mod vehicles. You will see a turbo but generally the mods are chome and a set of wheels.
I am not a Mopar fan but the Neon and the parts that you can get make for a good car to build for the street at a resonable price.
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Joined: 10-13-2011
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From: Welland,Ont Canada
well when all is said and done you did kill him with kindness, and you saved some fuel, to boot!!He'll be telling his site a different story of his bravery, ( or illegal urges to race you) nad all is well in bench racing land!!!
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Joined: 03-22-2012
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From: Rogers City, Michigan
Dang....you should have dusted him!
Boydie
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I have a pretty good commute to work everyday (74 miles each way). About 60 of those miles are interstate. Because of the cost of gas these days, I usually set my cruise and just go.
On my way home today I spot a PT in the distance.
As I approach, I see the letters "GT" on his rear hatch.
Personally, I didn't know that a "GT" PT existed.
***Anywho, after I passed by him (using cruise) and a couple other cars, I am able to merge back to the right lane.
A few minutes later he comes flying past and merges to the right, a few cars up ahead.
Again I am forced to merge back to a passing position...and go by him a second time. This time he nails it (carbon spray for proof) and is riding my passenger door. Then lunges, then falls back, then lunges, then falls back.
All the while he is bad-mouthing me thru the window because I won't challenge him. Throwing his hands us in a "come'on...do something" manner.
Honestly, my fuel warning was on and I had no intention of wasting my last few gallons.
My reply was a visible laugh on my part and a "no no no" index finger side-to-side gesture.
I am sure I made him mad. I have the tag that declares my intentions....but refused to let him test that theory .
On my way home today I spot a PT in the distance.
As I approach, I see the letters "GT" on his rear hatch.
Personally, I didn't know that a "GT" PT existed.
***Anywho, after I passed by him (using cruise) and a couple other cars, I am able to merge back to the right lane.
A few minutes later he comes flying past and merges to the right, a few cars up ahead.
Again I am forced to merge back to a passing position...and go by him a second time. This time he nails it (carbon spray for proof) and is riding my passenger door. Then lunges, then falls back, then lunges, then falls back.
All the while he is bad-mouthing me thru the window because I won't challenge him. Throwing his hands us in a "come'on...do something" manner.
Honestly, my fuel warning was on and I had no intention of wasting my last few gallons.
My reply was a visible laugh on my part and a "no no no" index finger side-to-side gesture.
I am sure I made him mad. I have the tag that declares my intentions....but refused to let him test that theory .
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Joined: 10-09-2010
Posts: 14,420
From: Tacoma
But they are so ugly, I think Brian did a much better job on the HHR.
I have never considered a turbo PT any competition, seems like I see them but they run the other way when they see the SS...........
I have never considered a turbo PT any competition, seems like I see them but they run the other way when they see the SS...........
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Joined: 06-07-2011
Posts: 2,180
From: SE Mich
I thought PT cruisers had crank windows only.
Maybe just cycling your power windows would piss them off. Before they see HHR SS tail lights fading into the horizon. Just sayin'. I know SRT4 Neons had crank-only windows, and that is still a way to get their "goat". Been there, done that. It was cool.
Maybe just cycling your power windows would piss them off. Before they see HHR SS tail lights fading into the horizon. Just sayin'. I know SRT4 Neons had crank-only windows, and that is still a way to get their "goat". Been there, done that. It was cool.