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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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Only issue I have with King is his wholesale writeoff of GM over a bum used car.

It happens. Happens to everyone sooner or later.

I understand being pissed, but realistically any manufacturer could have the same problem.
Agreed. Add to that the really tough time GM had (and is now having). Corners were bound to be shaved here and there. How can you really blame them? Marketing department says "this is what people want" and you build it. Then comes the worst economic downturn in decades. I hope it gets through the latest problems ok.

GM needs something big. Really big. And I don't mean a monster truck.

Here's what I'd like to see: A totally solar car. A car with a solar skin. Absorbs energy from any angle in any light. Looks just like any other car but in fact is just one complete solar cell.

Who knows, maybe they're already working on it.
Old Mar 31, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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I agree with the idea that buying used is always a gamble. Any used car should be checked, rechecked and researched as much as possible. To totally trash a car manufacturer because you got a lemon used car is very shortsighted. You have no idea who drove the car and how badly it was abused by the previous owner(s).
My '09 HHR Panel was bought used. It had a couple issues that have been taken care of. It has given me eighteen months of virtual trouble free service.
I guess when you buy used you just gotta be lucky!
Old Mar 31, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fernschreib
I agree with the idea that buying used is always a gamble. Any used car should be checked, rechecked and researched as much as possible. To totally trash a car manufacturer because you got a lemon used car is very shortsighted. You have no idea who drove the car and how badly it was abused by the previous owner(s).
My '09 HHR Panel was bought used. It had a couple issues that have been taken care of. It has given me eighteen months of virtual trouble free service.
I guess when you buy used you just gotta be lucky!
That is the point of CPO... you aren't supposed to have to worry about what happened to it before, clean carfax + CPO should equal almost as good as new.
Old Mar 31, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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That is the point of CPO... you aren't supposed to have to worry about what happened to it before, clean carfax + CPO should equal almost as good as new.
You do know that carfax only has data on repairs done at a dealer or collisions that were claimed on insurance, right?

Yes, you 'should' be getting as good as new, but it is not 'guaranteed' good as new.

Always get a trusted mechanic's opinion on a used car if you do not have the skill set required to do it yourself.

And- I still stand by my statement that this is a dealer issue, not a manufacturer issue.
Old Mar 31, 2014 | 09:21 PM
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"You aren't supposed to worry about what happened before..."

King, your right, that's the way it SHOULD be. In reality surveys say buyers want X, Y & Z and under a certain price point. Engineers say sure, they can do that but will have to skimp on A, B & C. Dealers may not necessarily know that. And, I believe, by law, the only requirement is to sell you a car that passes a safety inspection.

Finally, consider this: Consumer Reports ranks Manufactures (make) as well as individual cars. Guess what, according to CR, is the most unreliable vehicle brand (It'll surprise you)?

The answer is BMW.
Old Mar 31, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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Your right, that's the way it SHOULD be. In reality, and I repeat, surveys say buyers want X, Y & Z and under a certain price point. Engineers say sure, they can do that but will have to skimp on A, B & C. Dealers may not necessarily know that. And, I believe, by law, the only requirement is to sell you a car that passes a safety inspection.

Finally, consider this: Consumer Reports ranks Manufactures (make) as well as individual cars. Guess what, according to CR, is the most unreliable vehicle brand (It'll surprise you)?

The answer is BMW.
Doesn't surprise me. I've owned two ghettobeemers (3 series ) and junked them both because repair costs were ridiculous. The Benz 190E I had was cheaper to maintain.
Old Mar 31, 2014 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 11hhrlt
"You aren't supposed to worry about what happened before..."

King, your right, that's the way it SHOULD be. In reality surveys say buyers want X, Y & Z and under a certain price point. Engineers say sure, they can do that but will have to skimp on A, B & C. Dealers may not necessarily know that. And, I believe, by law, the only requirement is to sell you a car that passes a safety inspection.

Finally, consider this: Consumer Reports ranks Manufactures (make) as well as individual cars. Guess what, according to CR, is the most unreliable vehicle brand (It'll surprise you)?

The answer is BMW.
Doesn't surprise me at all... one of the reasons is when something goes wrong on a Beemer it takes a small loan to get it fixed.

I have owned used cavaliers, used saturns, used malibu and never had issues like this... those were all pre-2005. Seems like quality took a back seat for a couple years, but the bad taste of this CPO rip off just makes me want to follow the rest of my family to Chrysler and Ford. (I know I said Rice before... but I can't bring myself to do that yet)
Old Mar 31, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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Who owns Chrysler now? Which division?
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Fiat...but following their recent history, that's subject to change every few years.



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