Ok Captain Howdy, thats a little disturbing. But, to each their own . . .

 

What? Wanting to be an exploitation director or the 70's porn collection?

 

Both, but the 70's porn more.

 

CH....

Court documents, ala transcrips, are a matter of public record ( unless they were sealed). If you have the case name and number, sometimes you can even find them online. If you know where and what court, you can pay a nominal fee to the records clerk for a copy. Sometimes, if it is a notorius case (as you suggest here) portions of the transcrips are posted by legal firms and libraries. Thats how I acquired the transcript info on the Border Patrol Agents that we discussed on another thread. Universities that have Legal Libraries are a great help.

Good luck with your activities.

 

CH, Do you have a copy of the TV movie staring Brian Denahey as John Wayne Gacey? I saw it on the tube, but never got a copy. I'd love to do a trade if you have it.


Several movies have been made about a disturbing case from the turn of the last century, Leopold and Leob. Young Dean Stockwell starred in one 1956 version based on the book "Compulsion". I always found the case intriging as it was such a cold calculating plan. It shows what reading Nietzsche can have even on an educated mind. Of course, the dull mind would not be reading him, but I digress.............

Clarence Darrow defended and his defining remarks still echo sentiment today that debate the influence of teaching vs personal responsibility.
"Darrow gave a twelve-hour speech, which has been called the finest of his career. The speech included: "this terrible crime was inherent in his organism, and it came from some ancestor … Is any blame attached because somebody took Nietzsche’s philosophy seriously and fashioned his life upon it? … it is hardly fair to hang a 19-year-old boy for the philosophy that was taught him at the university."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_and_Loeb
Good source on the Darrow transcript here:
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...eb/leopold.htm

While not mass murder, it contains undercurrents which pervades the human psyche and still divide the world into nature/nurture societal responsibility vs personal responsibility, etc.
Which brings things full circle a bit here thread wise because after A Clockwork Orange was released, some British louts raped a girl while singing "Singing in the Rain". Media has some powerful influences on weak minds at all levels of intelligence.
Oh, the film was banned in Britain and not available there until 2000 mainly for the above reason.

I know I can handle this stuff, but will admit to mimicking the whole singing in the rain scene whilst sledgehammering a rust buck of an auto prior to it going to the junkyard! My mind is weaker than I may hope.

 

To me the golden age of cinema was the 70's and 80's. Films got pretty bad during the 90's but a lot of good things are happening in the 2000's especially in the art, indie, underground horror, Japanese, and French movie scenes. Not to mention all of the distribution companies like Grindhouse, Shriek Show, Blue Underground, Anchor Bay, ext. restoring an releasing all of the classics I love. Back then the directors were renegades and gorillas. They weren't afraid to the push boundaries of film. Actors weren't afraid of the repercussion or public reaction to taking questionable or edgy roles. Some directors just had a knack for turning trash into art. Things were no different in the booming porn industry. Now days porn sucks! I don't watch porn for any sexual gratification. I watch for pure comedy and entertainment value. Modern porn is all about money! It is just attractive and semi-attractive people screwing with no acting, production value, or camera work other than extreme close ups and shaky handicam. Back in the 70's and early 80's porn directors, camera men, and actors took themselves seriously. A lot of famous directors and actors got their start in porn or went back and forth between porn and normal film. Like did you know Sylvester Stallone got his start in porn? He was in a porn called The Party at Kitty and Stud's in 1970. It was his first acting role which he was paid $200 for. That is like the holy grail of porn to me. It is available is a cut version called Italian Stallion through Ventura but it's had all of the XXX cut out making it softcore. Back then looks didn't really matter. Some of the ugliest and hairiest porn star came out of the 70's. Look at a guy like Harry Reems and tell me how anyone could find him attractive. The sex was just humorous and ugly. All porns had a plot except stag reels and even some of them had a light plot. The directors actually directed and some of them did a damn good job. The rest of the crew like the camera and light guys took their jobs seriously. Not to mention there are just some odd films to came out of the porn industry at the time. Films that will never be made again. Stuff like Let My Puppets Cum the first and only puppet porn. It is so over the top and ridiculous you can't help but watch it in shock laughing and wondering who the hell in their right mind would make something so insane and actually put their name on it. Or the art porns like Behind the Green Door, classic cheese like Deep Throat, or odd horror porn fusions like Hardgore. All good stuff!

Snoopy - Thanks! I thought that was how it worked. It looks like a trip to the courthouse is in order. The trial was televised so I might be able to track down the tapes. There is also three books but they are all out of print. I can probably get them from the library though. The crime scene photos will probably be harder. I probably need special clearance for that? Or to prove that I'm actually using them for research and not just going to stick them on a website or something? I have a buddy who's dad was a beat cop at the time of the crimes so I could probably talk to him and his friends for a little police insight.

 

To Catch a Killer. One of the best mad for TV movies ever (others include Trilogy of Terror, Dark Night of the Scarecrow, and Helter Skelter). It was better than Gacy but not as dark. But in Gacy you get to see Francis from Pee-wee's Big Adventure as a clown killer. I think I have it on VHS somewhere. I have boxes and boxes of VHS tapes. A lot of the films I'm buying lately I am buying because I want to replace the VHS or I had it on betamax when I was a kid. I'll look this weekend.

 

Oh yeah, some porn I watch for shock value. Especially German and Japanese stuff. Non-sexual S&M porn can be one of the funniest most shocking things you can see. Like the German porn Mother Load 3 that I have. No sex, just a 300 pound woman beating the hell out of a 100 pound dude. Or a Japanese one that I have called Boots of Joy. Once again no sex just dudes getting their nuts kicked and stepped on. Japanese also seem to love vomit and poop. I'm not going to get into some of the odd gay porn I have been scared by. As you can tell I have a weird taste in shock cinema sometimes. My wife refuses to watch stuff like that that is just too odd or mentally damaging. I guess I should mention John Waters is in my top three directors list so I picked up a lot of his taste for odd, obscure, and cult films. I also love talking films!

 

I did mention in a past thread you should go to the Chiller Theater conventions in the Meadowlands. I set up there as a vendor selling a LOT of the imported stuff you'd love for a dozen years and always met some of the coolest directors, actors, etc.
You just walk around the dealers room and there's John Waters buying DVDs. It is quite the trip!

 

I have yet to go to a con other than a Star Trek one when I was a kid. I really should check out one of the big ones like Chiller or Cinema Wasteland. The hard part is getting the wife to want to go. See can thing of better things to do on a weekend trip than go to a horror con. I'll have to work on her. Maybe I'll have to take her somewhere she likes to go like Niagara Falls for the weekend a few weeks in advance of the horror con I want to go to so she can't complain.