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Old Jun 24, 2022 | 11:15 PM
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For those of you who have FlexFiuel cars, you can burn E85 without any trouble. In CA, E85 is just a little over ½ the price of regiular gas, so a fill up is quite a bit cheaper. You will probatly get slightly worse fuel economy, but at the cheaper price of the E85, it is well worth the switch.
Old Jun 25, 2022 | 09:57 AM
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Might be feasible for the country of California but not here in Alabama. Closest E85 station to me (via search) looks to be 100 miles away. Plus the price listed was only about 50 cents a gallon cheaper for E85. In fact, I see very few places in the entire state that sell E85.
Old Jun 25, 2022 | 10:35 AM
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There's a station here in our small town. $4.19 for E85, $6.29 for regular, $6.59 for premium. So, it's a good thought!
Old Jun 25, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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It will not be long before we will want to eat the corn rather than burn it. It takes 20 pounds of corn to produce one gallon of fuel. There's a famine coming and it will not make any difference what's in your gas tank as your stomach will long for the corn you burnt up.
Old Jun 25, 2022 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by firemangeorge
Might be feasible for the country of California but not here in Alabama. Closest E85 station to me (via search) looks to be 100 miles away. Plus the price listed was only about 50 cents a gallon cheaper for E85. In fact, I see very few places in the entire state that sell E85.
Pride, 9990 fairhope Ave & belforest road. GasBuddy lists that they have E85, but no one has reported a price.

Google maps streetview, hard to tell if they have it, looks like not.
Old Jun 25, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommyest
For those of you who have FlexFiuel cars, you can burn E85 without any trouble. In CA, E85 is just a little over ½ the price of regiular gas, so a fill up is quite a bit cheaper. You will probatly get slightly worse fuel economy, but at the cheaper price of the E85, it is well worth the switch.
I don't know much about American gasoline brands, but I suspect cheaper gasoline has a lower octane rating...
If so, I would beware of using it regularly. Indeed, a couple of gas stations mean nothing. Or even 10,000 miles on such fuel will not reveal obvious problems. But microdetonations!! In a year your fingers will start to rattle, in 2 years the walls of your cylinders will become oval. Increased oil consumption, reduced power, in general - all the delights of a dying engine. Have pity on your horse, don't feed it what makes it sick.
The golden rule of a prudent owner is not to save on oil, gasoline and filters.

Originally Posted by greg8453
It will not be long before we will want to eat the corn rather than burn it. It takes 20 pounds of corn to produce one gallon of fuel. There's a famine coming and it will not make any difference what's in your gas tank as your stomach will long for the corn you burnt up.
Damn!.. man! Are you serious?
I often hear this on TV, but I did not think it was so real. If so, then my condolences. Stock up on some while you can.
Old Jun 25, 2022 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by geg
I don't know much about American gasoline brands, but I suspect cheaper gasoline has a lower octane rating...
If so, I would beware of using it regularly.
E85 has much higher octane rating than even premium gasoline. While imperfect, in many ways it’s a better fuel than gasoline. Check out the Wikipedia entry on E85. You’ll find it interesting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85

Then, if you like that, it gets even better.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comm..._fuel_mixtures
Old Jun 26, 2022 | 04:42 AM
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Now I'm really surprised..
85% alcohol + 15% gasoline = cheaper than pure gasoline! until my brain takes it for granted..
For comparison: in the Russian Federation, 100 g of ethyl alcohol costs as much as 1 liter of gasoline. Of course, the cost of alcohol includes a bottle, a sticker, but still!..
If Russia had E85, only millionaires would use it.
During the Soviet era, there was a short period of experimentation when some municipal or corporate vehicles used methyl alcohol. But this was quickly abandoned, possibly due to too many deaths. There were cases when passers-by smelled, stole methanol from tanks and drank it.
In Russia, gas (propane, less often butane) is considered cheap. Many people use it as fuel. But it requires reconfiguring the ignition, expensive gas-tanks, a gearbox. So if you convert a gasoline engine to gas, it takes quite a long time until it starts to pay off. In our company, part of the trucks run on gas. But they were equipped with gas fittings at the factory by the manufacturer. Basically, these are Scania, but there are Volvo and Kamaz.
Old Jun 26, 2022 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by geg
Damn!.. man! Are you serious?
I often hear this on TV, but I did not think it was so real. If so, then my condolences. Stock up on some while you can.
You better start your own garden and get some chickens or you will be in the bread lines that are coming.
Old Jun 26, 2022 | 02:55 PM
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In the US we have a special category of taxes for fuel use, nowhere near what they tax for potable alcohol. The problem is that they are diverting a huge amount of resources from food production in the name of antipollution.



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