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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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The ethanol used is not potable, you might die from ingesting it. Not the same as Vodka.
Old Jun 27, 2022 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Greybeard999
They grow a lot of corn around here, meant for alcohol production and pellet fuel made from the stalk/leaves. This corn is not food grade corn, squirrels won't even touch the stuff. Every 3 years or so they rotate in soybeans... for the plastics industry. (we need more wire insulation for rodents to eat, apparently)

One could argue that the field could be used for food grade corn instead, but adjacent to my property I doubt the soil is up to that task. Not sure about other parts of the state, but I've not seen food crops being grown for the last 15 years or better.
They could treat the soil and in one year have it producing food. The reason these farms grow what they do is because they make twice as much money with the subsidies they get. It's about the money. It's always about the money.
Old Jun 27, 2022 | 03:41 PM
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In my neck of the woods almost all of the corn is feed corn except for farmer's market stuff. The next crop is usually soy beans, then wheat or some other grain; sometimes 2 crops of grain. The soy takes care of replenishing the nutrients.
Old Jun 27, 2022 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Greybeard999
They grow a lot of corn around here, meant for alcohol production and pellet fuel made from the stalk/leaves. This corn is not food grade corn, squirrels won't even touch the stuff. Every 3 years or so they rotate in soybeans... for the plastics industry. (we need more wire insulation for rodents to eat, apparently)

One could argue that the field could be used for food grade corn instead, but adjacent to my property I doubt the soil is up to that task. Not sure about other parts of the state, but I've not seen food crops being grown for the last 15 years or better.
Huh. I’m in Ohio too. Where are you, in the Cleveland flats, lol? Or near Plum Brook? (If you are you know what I’m talking about.) I never much thought about using toxic brownfields for growing crops for industrial use. Kinda cool in a way.


Old Jun 27, 2022 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by geg
Making alcohol from grain (from food) only makes sense when you're going to drink it.
Even sawdust is suitable for fuel production... for example, we make disinfectant liquids or technical washing from sawdust and other organic waste.
I think your authorities messed up something with corn. unjustified waste, nobility

But there is also good news. Your E85 after easy manipulations can be drunk. ... Hell, we would have to lay off half the staff in our company if the E85 was available to them!
With enough distillation and filtration, adding back water from a judiciously chosen source, and maybe a trace of flavor, buzzard puke could be made into a lovely vodka, assuming the bird had been eating something fermentable. Might need to add a bunch of that sawdust.

In the U.S. all available ethanol not labeled and taxed as booze is by law deliberately “denatured,” that is, made toxic to make you sick if you drink it. To bad if you drink too much; then it will make you dead.
Old Jun 27, 2022 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
In my neck of the woods almost all of the corn is feed corn except for farmer's market stuff. The next crop is usually soy beans, then wheat or some other grain; sometimes 2 crops of grain. The soy takes care of replenishing the nutrients.
Yeah, corn is greedy for nitrogen. Soybean is an amazing plant.

What we’ve always called “field corn,” perhaps a corruption of “feed corn,” only tastes good very young and fresh off the stalk. But now the stuff like Starlink makes its own pesticide and is unfit for hooman consumption. (Watch where you buy your tortilla chips.) So we feed it to critters where it presumably bioaccumulates. Then we eat the critters.

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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 08:21 PM
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Huh. I’m in Ohio too. Where are you,
West central
Old Jun 27, 2022 | 08:41 PM
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What they call feed corn here is de husked by the combine and goes to food processing plants for filler, mostly animal food.
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