Liars! This is RIDICULOUS!!
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Nascar and the aircraft industry use nitrogen in tires for a specific reason: water vapor. Water vapor will follow the gas laws in most circumstances, until the temps reach a point where that vapor will turn to steam, drastically increasing pressures. Possible in those applications; not likely in the everyday auto.
I remember reading something about fire issues in aircraft also.
Right, Clevelandhhrss?? You're the chem. engr.
I remember reading something about fire issues in aircraft also.
Right, Clevelandhhrss?? You're the chem. engr.
So to kill this NITROGEN DEBATE.....
Please use it if you are very very lazy, or very very rich, have a hook-up for free through a friend, plan to visit antartica or 40000 feet, drive at 200mph in the south for hours in nascar or land your flying HHR at 150mph+ at Burke Lakefont Airport......
Otherwise check your tire pressure regularly, keep it high but also below the max printed on the tire. If you dont have TPS on your HHR, then get an accurate tire pressure gauge, get off the highway after a long drive in the summer and check the pressure. If your under the max by a few.....youre good.
Check it the next morning after cool down, check the pressure again. Whatever it is......write it down. Use this pressure and maintain it. DONE
PHEW....funny thing is I have not added a single mole of air to my tires yet....nor changed my oil.......I listen to my DIC.
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I may have run into Ray Oban, I'm terrible with names.... Did he race ARCA?
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aircraft go from 0 ft to well over 40,000 ft... the volume of air/nitrogen in a aircraft tire is going to have very little to do whether a tire is going to catch fire and burn... same same with race car tires.... even if you were fill them with halon. tires are rubber compounds and they burn.
We all know what rubber "compounds" are..lol
Oxygen is "EVERYTHING TO A FIRE".
Lack of oxygen does the same thing to FIRE that it will do to YOU and the same thing it does for COMBUSTION in your HHRs engine.
Quick Death.......
Yes I know that there is air outside the tire...which could/would support combustion......but which plane would you fly in????
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Here i am nit picking again.
We all know what rubber "compounds" are..lol
Oxygen is "EVERYTHING TO A FIRE".
Lack of oxygen does the same thing to FIRE that it will do to YOU and the same thing it does for COMBUSTION in your HHRs engine.
Quick Death.......
Yes I know that there is air outside the tire...which could/would support combustion......but which plane would you fly in????
We all know what rubber "compounds" are..lol
Oxygen is "EVERYTHING TO A FIRE".
Lack of oxygen does the same thing to FIRE that it will do to YOU and the same thing it does for COMBUSTION in your HHRs engine.
Quick Death.......
Yes I know that there is air outside the tire...which could/would support combustion......but which plane would you fly in????
what plane would i fly in... the one that has no chance of having a wheel/break/tire fire.... never saw a ac tire burn from the inside out. mostly they just blow up before burning. there aren t to many ways to squeeze the oxygen out of magneisium... oh thats right it makes it s own when burning.
i am not a mech engineer or chem engineer... but i guess i figured all that stuff without a degree in either... there were some guys on that hhr.com forum that thought a degree made the right. just quote the scource... don t really care about bias. but like they say everyone is intitled... but no one has to listen if they don t want to... and it is against the law to beat it into them. in most countrys
3000 plus hours aircrew Navy P3 orions... one blowout... one break fire... several engine fires/warnings...
http://www2.whidbey.net/urraca/index...n_the_NAVY.htm
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I'm speaking of people that claim 35-37 MPG at 80-85 MPH. Yeah right. I believe there is even a 40mpg at that speed.
And owner's that can't seem to break 30 MPG, highway, and shout claims of being great drivers. Yeah right. Wish I had a dollar for every great driver I saw get "burned" by a 5 foot 2 inch female at the Proving Ground (she was one of the driving instructors). That even includes some big name NASCAR drivers ("meat" waving intended).
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I wasn't waving THAT meat for your benefit. The MPG's you indicate are not unusual and are in line with my own experiences.
I'm speaking of people that claim 35-37 MPG at 80-85 MPH. Yeah right. I believe there is even a 40mpg at that speed.
And owner's that can't seem to break 30 MPG, highway, and shout claims of being great drivers. Yeah right. Wish I had a dollar for every great driver I saw get "burned" by a 5 foot 2 inch female at the Proving Ground (she was one of the driving instructors). That even includes some big name NASCAR drivers ("meat" waving intended).
I'm speaking of people that claim 35-37 MPG at 80-85 MPH. Yeah right. I believe there is even a 40mpg at that speed.
And owner's that can't seem to break 30 MPG, highway, and shout claims of being great drivers. Yeah right. Wish I had a dollar for every great driver I saw get "burned" by a 5 foot 2 inch female at the Proving Ground (she was one of the driving instructors). That even includes some big name NASCAR drivers ("meat" waving intended).
