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Old 05-31-2007, 09:24 PM
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Marine vet faces hearing over protest

Marine vet faces hearing over protest
By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTHThu May 31, 6:19 PM ET



An Iraq war veteran could lose his honorable discharge status after being photographed wearing fatigues at an anti-war protest.

Marine Cpl. Adam Kokesh and other veterans marked the fourth anniversary of the war in Iraq in March by wearing their uniforms — with military insignia removed — and roaming around the nation's capital on a mock patrol.

After Kokesh was identified in a photo cutline in The Washington Post, a superior officer sent him a letter saying he might have violated a rule prohibiting troops from wearing uniforms without authorization.

Kokesh, a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, responded with an obscenity.

Now, a military panel has been scheduled to meet with Kokesh on Monday to decide whether his discharge status should be changed from "honorable" to "other than honorable."

"This is clearly a case of selective prosecution and intimidation of veterans who speak out against the war," Kokesh said. "To suggest that while as a veteran you don't have freedom of speech is absurd."

Kokesh is part of the Individual Ready Reserve, a segment of the reserves that consists mainly of those who have left active duty but still have time remaining on their eight-year military obligations.

His attorney, Mike Lebowitz, said Kokesh's IRR status ends June 18. He said at least three other veterans have been investigated because of their involvement at demonstrations.

Kokesh, 25, enlisted in the Marines while still attending high school in New Mexico. He was a reservist in an artillery unit, assigned to the November Battery, 5th Battalion, 14th Regiment of the 4th Division based out of Pico Rivera, Calif., near Los Angeles.

Kokesh said he had reservations about Iraq even before the United States invaded, but wanted to go there to help rebuild schools and mosques after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled. He even learned Arabic.

He said he grew disillusioned with the war during his first tour, and now believes there is no way for the country to achieve the rule of law with a foreign military imposing martial law.

He was supposed to go to Iraq a second time, but was demoted from sergeant to corporal and not allowed to return after it was learned that he brought a pistol back after his first tour in 2004.

Kokesh argues that he was not representing the military at the protest in Washington, and he made that clear by removing his name tag and other military insignia from his uniform.

Lebowitz said Kokesh technically is a civilian unless recalled to active duty and had the right to be disrespectful in his response to the officer. He called the proceedings against Kokesh highly unusual and said the military usually seeks to change a veteran's discharge status only if a crime has been committed.

If his discharge status is changed, Kokesh said he could lose some health benefits and be forced to repay about $10,800 he received to obtain his undergraduate degree on the GI Bill.

Kokesh said he holds no ill will toward the Marines.

"I love the Marine Corps," he said. "I always have loved the Marine Corps, and that is why I'm particularly offended to see it being used for political ends."

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That is f*cked on so many levels.
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Weird is right..I don't know to laugh or cry?


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Old 06-01-2007, 05:58 AM
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Sounds like " Support the Troops, as long as they support our position ".
This guy thought he was fighting for another man`s freedom, while his own was being taken away, while he was away.
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Kokesh is part of the Individual Ready Reserve, a segment of the reserves that consists mainly of those who have left active duty but still have time remaining on their eight-year military obligations.
According to military regulations, you are not allowed to wear any part of your uniform even during your own or private time. While I side on this is garbage side like is mentioned in the thread, Even during your inactive reserve time, you must watch your "P's and Q's"

If he was out of the reserves and the eight year obligation, this would not be an issue. Or the gentleman should of worn hunting camo.
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:07 AM
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The regulations on wear of the uniform are clear...but...the enforcement has be far too selective. If the Marine would have been outside of his 8 eight year committment to the military he would have been free of this type of prosecution. Is he being targeted, you can bet your backside he is, but the command structure has the regulations on thier side...As veterans we should be watching over these returning soldiers to help keep these errors from being costly to them...
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I always thought that as long as military insignia removed you could wear them. Anypne can walk into a surpluss store and buy a set of BDU's
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Not if you are current military, Did he remove his sewn on name tags?. Anyone can wear BDUs as long as they are not current military. And I also see him as being targeted. It funny I can remember that being mentioned when I was in the Military, ERA, Vietnam. Darn it's rough getting older..
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This is not a story about the wearing of a uniform, it`s about a young man who came back and felt that the American people should hear from someone who had gone to Iraq, and didn`t see the reason he had gone.
And obviously didn`t enjoy the things that was going on, things that other so called Patriots thought were fun and games.
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Sounds like it's more the story of a dumbass with a history of stupidity both in and out of the Corps. He knew he shouldn't be wearing the uniform, just like he knew he shouldn't be bringing foreign weapons back into the country when returning from foreign duty.

The liberal media is surely going to twist this into a free speech issue while ignoring the fact that he's been in violation of the rules and regulations of the military that he swore an oath of allegiance to fight with.
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