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Old 06-23-2016, 01:00 PM
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EVAP codes can take 2 weeks to re appear after clearing them.
There are other reasons besides "gas cap" for P0440.

I will say it again: P0449 is a fault in the CIRCUIT. It does not mean that anything is operating out of spec. Could be the wrong valve that fits and works, but has more/fewer windings etc.
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Old 06-23-2016, 01:07 PM
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The 2006 model HHR has different wiring harness to the valve than the new replacement part. A new pigtail must be purchased and installed correctly to hook it up.

Any chance this fact has a bearing on the story?

I could never find out what "normal operation" means exactly when I was running live data on the EVAP system. Could you please post the info for me?
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:59 AM
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I used the original connector on the vent valve and repaired a broken wire going to it. Both before and after the repairs with the two codes still current, while doing a test drive and live data monitoring the evap purge command and the fuel tank vapor pressure, the vapor pressure was always saturated no mater what % the purge command was. After the trip to the dealer and they finding(p0440 that my reader didn't catch)/fixing the gap cap issue, I ran the same live data drive test and the tank vapor pressure responded to the purge commands. With these empirical results and no cel I reasoned the evap system is operating normally.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:25 AM
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Now there is no CEL? I am getting confused. If there is no CEL then the codes you see are pending, not current.

If you did not have to change the pigtail then it had been replaced before. The replacement part requires a different connector than the factory harness. Which would explain the broken wire, but what about the other wire? Maybe a bad solder or not soldered causing a bad signal?
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Old 06-26-2016, 06:25 AM
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All codes were cleared after the dealer service, and none have reoccured. Owned the car since new and pigtail never replaced.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Please note:
EVAP canister vent solenoid valve is under the car

EVAP canister purge solenoid valve is under the hood

The control signal is to ground via a PWM (Pulse Wave Modulation)

The connectors should be the same.

With ignition ON, should a test light not pass from A to B? Or is the grounding via PWM causing this connection to be more complicated than that?
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:44 AM
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The only real way to check it is with a tech2 or similar scan tool. You have to command the vent valve to 50% to get a test light on.
purge valve is N.C.
vent valve is N.O.
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