HAND Wax or Power tools?
Well, he isn't totally lying to you. GM's newer vehicles does have paint that is easily marred. My process:
Foamed with gold class and super soap mix
Wash-2 bucket method, with grit guards
Clayed with ONR
Re-wash
Blow dry with leaf blower
blot dry with water magnets.
PC 7424xp
M105/LC orange pad
M205/LC orange pad
M07/LC blue pad
M26/LC white pad
HD on wheel wells
UP on trim/black plastics
Hot shine on tires
That is just the outside....I am actually in the process of doing this today, 5 Hours in..I am on step 3...
Foamed with gold class and super soap mix
Wash-2 bucket method, with grit guards
Clayed with ONR
Re-wash
Blow dry with leaf blower
blot dry with water magnets.
PC 7424xp
M105/LC orange pad
M205/LC orange pad
M07/LC blue pad
M26/LC white pad
HD on wheel wells
UP on trim/black plastics
Hot shine on tires
That is just the outside....I am actually in the process of doing this today, 5 Hours in..I am on step 3...

When you first used the PC, did you have any adverse results? I'm a little nervous using mine for the first time.
No, as long as it is used properly you will be fine. Pad/speed/pressure/liguid/section are all keys to success with it. The good part about a DA is they do not burn like a rotary will. Opposed to a rotary, when you mash down with a DA the machine will slow down. It really is a wonderful tool to have. The only advice I have is buy a set of Mechanix M-pact gloves, otherwise your hands will shake for an hour or so after, at least mine do. Kind of like after you get done weed eating the yard.
Thanks for the advice Judge. After buffing my dinning table for 1 minute, I know what you mean.
I'm going to pipe in here since I myself am a detailer.
Swirls can be put into paint by various sources. Detailers that do not know how to properly wash a car, your average joe who just takes a bucket and wash mitt and goes to town, daily driving can actually cause some swirls as well from sand and debris.
That being said, when you applied the turtle wax to your ride all you did was hide the swirls that are there. Once swirls are in the paint the only way to rid the car of them is to polish them out (your "detailer" should have known how to fix his mistake). A couple people here have already mentioned the Porter Cable Dual Action polisher. It's a great tool and I use it often weather it's for applying a wax or doing a full polish on a car.
There are a lot of hack detailers out there that give the legit detailers a bad name by not using proper wash techniques and proper products.
1970judge has the process down it seems. Especially with the two bucket wash method and grit guards. A quality wash mitt, clay, clay lube, and some quality microfiber towels. Not just your left over t-shirt or an old towel.
Just a few pointers
M105 on an orange pad is good but you may have to bump it up to a yellow pad. GM paint tends to be very hard to correct, but swirls and mars easily.
When you go to the M205 I would suggest using a White LC pad.
M07 is not really neccesary if you have a perfect finish to begin with the glaze is not going to do much. Your paint is clear coated and the glaze is full of oils that will not do much for the clear. If it was single stage paint I'd say go to town, or if you are trying to hide some swirls that weren't taken out etc. This is just my opinion. It's not going to hurt anything by doing it.
Swirls can be put into paint by various sources. Detailers that do not know how to properly wash a car, your average joe who just takes a bucket and wash mitt and goes to town, daily driving can actually cause some swirls as well from sand and debris.
That being said, when you applied the turtle wax to your ride all you did was hide the swirls that are there. Once swirls are in the paint the only way to rid the car of them is to polish them out (your "detailer" should have known how to fix his mistake). A couple people here have already mentioned the Porter Cable Dual Action polisher. It's a great tool and I use it often weather it's for applying a wax or doing a full polish on a car.
There are a lot of hack detailers out there that give the legit detailers a bad name by not using proper wash techniques and proper products.
1970judge has the process down it seems. Especially with the two bucket wash method and grit guards. A quality wash mitt, clay, clay lube, and some quality microfiber towels. Not just your left over t-shirt or an old towel.
Just a few pointers
M105 on an orange pad is good but you may have to bump it up to a yellow pad. GM paint tends to be very hard to correct, but swirls and mars easily.
When you go to the M205 I would suggest using a White LC pad.
M07 is not really neccesary if you have a perfect finish to begin with the glaze is not going to do much. Your paint is clear coated and the glaze is full of oils that will not do much for the clear. If it was single stage paint I'd say go to town, or if you are trying to hide some swirls that weren't taken out etc. This is just my opinion. It's not going to hurt anything by doing it.
Yeah Ive tried the consumer level Meguiars Speed Glaze, but it didnt do much for the light swirls I had on a year old car. Now Im going one step up in the polish, just using an orbital, hoping that will do it. I also have some 3M correction compound, but Im thinking that is too abrasive.
If I cant get it this time, Im contemplating wetsanding.
If I cant get it this time, Im contemplating wetsanding.
Yeah Ive tried the consumer level Meguiars Speed Glaze, but it didnt do much for the light swirls I had on a year old car. Now Im going one step up in the polish, just using an orbital, hoping that will do it. I also have some 3M correction compound, but Im thinking that is too abrasive.
If I cant get it this time, Im contemplating wetsanding.
If I cant get it this time, Im contemplating wetsanding.
If you can afford it purchase a dual action polisher. Porter Cable 7424xp or Griot Garage DA. Meguiars makes one as well. This tool comes in really handy and makes quick work of polishing paint. It's also the best for a novice (no offense). It's very hard to mess anything up using one. You won't burn the paint as you can with a rotary.
I would definitely stay away from a compound of any type without having a DA polisher. Doing it by hand will make it extremely difficult and your arm/shoulder will probably give out before you get the results your looking for.
Definitely don't go wet sanding anything. You will have a hard time getting sanding marks out with the DA let alone trying to do it by hand. The orbital won't even touch it.
Like I said I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but don't want you to go messing up your ride and then have to pay someone to fix it.
"orbital" polisher isn't really much use when it comes to actually polishing paint.
If you can afford it purchase a dual action polisher. Porter Cable 7424xp or Griot Garage DA. Meguiars makes one as well.
Like I said I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but don't want you to go messing up your ride and then have to pay someone to fix it.
If you can afford it purchase a dual action polisher. Porter Cable 7424xp or Griot Garage DA. Meguiars makes one as well.
Like I said I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but don't want you to go messing up your ride and then have to pay someone to fix it.


