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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 08:01 AM
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Oh Gregg, P0301

So I have this odd issue. Its been going on all year, and first happened a few months ago and then just happened this past Wednesday. To date, it has only occurred the two times.

Its a cylinder 1 misfire, but it only occurs under heavy acceleration (3/4 throttle and above) and it will sometimes happen sometimes not. The code is never set, it is only stored as pending, and goes away after a drive cycle or two. to stop the misfire I have to shut the car down and restart. There are ZERO -problems after restart, like nothing happened.... I already replaced all spark plugs and the coil on that cylinder.

Data log revealed no issues with fuel trim, cat temp, O2 sensors, or the like. I have no clue what it could be. My dad suggested a bad ground perhaps? where is the ground located for the injectors,.... if it exists.

A/F ratio is perfect as well. I attached some pics showing the live data taken the next day. First pic is just cruising and the second is a screenshot right after a short acceleration at a little over half throttle.

I am at a loss.After the misfired occurs the car seems to go into a limp mode where it wont rev past 2500 RPM, which I found when trying to move over tto the side of the highway to pull on a side street.

Any advice on where I might want to look next Gregg runs great otherwise and like I said I have even tried testing it before and it just doesn't happen. Hell, I changed the plugs and coil pack right after the first instance, took the car out, warmed him up, and floored it for the first time ever and it didn't happen.




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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 08:48 AM
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My guess is either you got some crap in the fuel rail or your fuel pump is casting hints.
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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I was thinking the same, but wouldn't that typically give a problem with random misfire and not cylinder specific?
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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I wonder, how does the computer detect the misfire? What sensors are involved?
There must be a knock sensor to control the VVT, I would guess.
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Conax
I wonder, how does the computer detect the misfire? What sensors are involved?
There must be a knock sensor to control the VVT, I would guess.
I would think it would be the upstream oxygen sensor? I don't think a misfire causes a knock.
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by aradmahogany
I was thinking the same, but wouldn't that typically give a problem with random misfire and not cylinder specific?
Is #1 injector at the 'end of the line'? Where crud would accumulate?
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:30 AM
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I would think it would be the upstream oxygen sensor.
The O2's sniff all the exhaust, not just #1. Maybe they are sampled so often and so quickly the ECM can calculate which one is the culprit?
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:31 AM
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This sounds like a job for a can of SeaFoam in the gas..
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Conax
The O2's sniff all the exhaust, not just #1. Maybe they are sampled so often and so quickly the ECM can calculate which one is the culprit?
That's my thought behind the guess.
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:34 AM
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The knock sensor(s?) may be listening for the normal thumping of each cylinder and a knock as well. When the thump doesn't appear at all, it calls a misfire.



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